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1836 Coronet Head Large Cent N-6 For Grading And Opinion

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 Posted 07/01/2023  10:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm thinking this is an F15 coin. I don't think it's been cleaned. Am I right or off base. Thanks.
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 Posted 07/01/2023  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with F-15, and looks original to me.
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 Posted 07/01/2023  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree and I like the Cud too.
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 Posted 07/01/2023  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does it also have roller lines?
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 Posted 07/01/2023  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't think so on the roller lines, but don't know much about them. The Cud is an N-6 indicator, I think.
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 Posted 07/01/2023  11:47 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F-15 seems about right. No roller lines. Some minor planchet defects, and obverse streaking from copper impurities.
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 Posted 07/01/2023  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice looking. At least F-15. Might eke out vf-20.
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 Posted 07/02/2023  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F details, obverse environmental damage (pitting/corrosion), scratched (above head at S7-S8), obverse has been cleaned probably trying to "fix" the corrosion

Hard pass. The Cud is popular but these are very common and not that difficult to find.

Now, if you ever run across one without the Cud, that's a different story altogether!



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 Posted 07/02/2023  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, paralyse, but I bought it for $50 including shipping. I thought it was worth that money based on Greysheets and I'm OK with my bid.
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Very nice buy, seldom disagree with paralyse, but do in this case.
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I can't fault paralyse because I have respect for his opinions. There is some apparent corrosion between stars 4 and 5 and also by star 13 that he didn't mention. I felt that the bid I put forth ($45) was a reasonable bid based on condition. The scratch between stars 7-8 to me is negligible, but he may have a point. I looked at auction coins that were slabbed F15 and this was on a par with them. I see Greysheet 1836 N-6 in F15 as an $84 coin. I don't see any obverse cleaning, but I defer to those among you with more experience.
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My logic behind the cleaning is the obverse streakiness.

It sort of looks like planchet streaks, but those would be on the reverse as well.

Perhaps there is another explanation.

I think you paid a very fair price for it!
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IMO those obverse streaks are in the planchet from impurities in the copper. It would be more obvious if they were on both sides, but it's possible for it to be visible on only one side, just like a Lincoln woodie is occasionally seen on just one side. And those areas of pitting might be some small planchet defects. I think you did well.
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I'm with Zurie on obverse streaks are in the planchet from impurities in the copper as well as paralyse assessment with the corrosion. I'm not convinced the coin was cleaned but although the corrosion is planchet related it would still detail the coin.

F15 details (corrosion)
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 Posted 07/07/2023  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin arrived today. Reverse is rotated 10-12 degrees clockwise as in pictures. I'm actually pretty happy with it for the price.
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I'll change my assessment to "not cleaned" but the obverse damage is sadly quite extensive.
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