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Commems Collection Modern: What If? 1984 Morgan Dollars For Collectors

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When the Morgan and Peace Dollar designs were re-issued as collector coins in 2021, they were, largely, greeted warmly by the community and have gone on to become popular ongoing issues among collectors. But it wasn't the first time the re-issue of Morgan
Dollars, specifically for collectors, was contemplated.

Nearly 40 years prior, in 1983, Senator James Albertus McClure (R-ID), for himself and Senator Steven Douglas Symms (R-ID), introduced a bill that provided for "the disposal of silver from the national defense stockpile through the issuance of silver coins."

The bill sought two different silver coins: 1) a 0.999 fine one-ounce silver bullion coin, and 2) a re-issue of the Morgan Dollar according to its original specifications: 38.1 mm diameter, weight of 26.73 grams, 0.900 fine silver planchet, reeded edge, etc. for collectors. The new "Morgans" would be struck in Proof and Uncirculated, with an issue price equal to their intrinsic value plus either a 75% premium (Proof version) or a 50% premium (Uncirculated version). The premium was intended to cover the costs of production, etc. Both coin types were to be ongoing issues.

Using an approximate average silver spot value of $14.00 per ounce, the issue price for the Proof coin was estimated at $18.95 and $16.25 for the Uncirculated. (The math, using the Proof coin as an example: $14.00/ounce of silver x 0.7734 ounces Actual Silver Weight per coin = $10.83 intrinsic value, multiplied by 1.75 to add premium = $18.95 issue price.)

As a Senator from a major silver-producing state, McClure was a vocal advocate for the re-monetization of silver, and so such a silver coin bill was not very surprising. McClure's bill gained multiple co-sponsors after its introduction - the idea of reducing the nation's stockpile of silver via coinage was an idea that was gaining support at the time - one of the ultimate outcomes of the drive was the American Silver Eagle ( ASE) bullion program.

The bill was referred to the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. A Hearing was held to discuss the the gold coin bill introduced by Jesse Helms (R-NC) and McClure's silver coin bill. It was an extended Hearing with gold and silver industry experts/representatives present to provide supportive testimony, along with Federal representative testimony, including from the Resources Preparedness, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Treasury Department.

The Hearing brought to light the fact that Government research into the best method(s) to dispose of excess silver from the Stockpile was not yet complete and that no report of the research findings had yet been made. So, authorizing a disposal method via coins was believed to be premature at the time.

As a result, McClure's bill was not reported by the Committee, and so did not receive further consideration in the Senate. (Two companion bills were introduced in the House, but neither moved forward either.) So, no collector-focused Morgan Dollar program, as per McClure's bill, was released in 1984 (or beyond). The ASE program was just around the corner, however!


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It is very interesting to think that we may have had a new Morgan dollar along with (or instead of) the ASE all this time!
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Oh dear! The Mint gets enough of my money as it is!

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It is very interesting to think that we may have had a new Morgan dollar along with (or instead of) the ASE all this time!
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It is very interesting to think that we may have had a new Morgan dollar along with (or instead of) the ASE all this time!

It might have been! Who can say what direction the Committee might have gone had the Report (mentioned above) been completed and some sort of direction supplied?


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Fascinating story of an almost Morgan re-issue 40 years ago.
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Very interesting. I never heard about this.
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Never knew about this. Thanks for sharing.
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Never knew about this.

It's not a well-known element of the story of the US' 1980s move to use its massive silver bullion stockpile for coinage.



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Very interesting, commems. As with some other posters, I'd also never heard of this before. Thanks!
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Another Great Topic COMMEMS,

I Too was Not Aware of the 1983, 84 Morgan silver dollars..... WOW...

I did Research about the General Admissions Services, Around the 1970's Release of the Bags Found in the Federal Reserve Banks, of ONE THOUSAND Coin Bags Piled up in Vaults, Until ? That's where I would Appreciate More Factual Reality Information.

How , Where , Who, What and When.... I missed that Early 1970's Ship....

I am specifically talking about the Grades, Which were Available back then, People were Given a Choice as to Condition Availability, SEALED on their Dark Blue See Through Plastic Nests... I collect THESE Too... Mostly All Graded Before My Ownership... Any Chance You COMMEMS, Have More to Add, Being the Kind Historian Extraordinaire You Obviously Are....
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@morgans_dad: I'm afraid I'm not sure of the question you are asking...but, here's a link to a history of the GSA dollars that might answer many of your questions. Let me know if you have questions not answered by the article.

- Morgan Dollar Hoard in Government Vaults


Here's a GSA Dollar-related post of mine that you might find interesting:

- What If? 1966 GSA Dollar Sale Alternative


The topic has been discussed many times here on CCF:

1) Click on the "Search" button at the top of the screen.
2) Type "GSA" in the "Search" box.
3) Select "Subject Only" for the "Search in:" criteria.
4) Click the "Search" button.

You should then see a list of GSA Dollar topics.



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COMMEMS,

Your Certainly An Educator,


Exactly The History I and All Should Read and Know, Thanks.... The GSA's are Another Niche, Well Worth Collecting.....
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Never heard of this before either!
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