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1972 No Mint Mark DDO Obverse Variety

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hi to all I just want to know if what kind of 1972 DDO obverse variety of my coin and the value of it thank you 🙏;🙏;
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Impossible to tell if your Lincoln is a DDO until you provide a photo of the obverse of the coin.
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Copy to Clipboard this is the image sir can you determine if it is 004? Thank you
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This coin has master die doubling, this eliminates all doubled dies but some of the doubled 2's, so if you can get us a clear, closeup of the date that would be all we need.
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Not seeing a DDO so far.
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to the CCF I don't even see any master die doubling.
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CuJohn, all you have to look at is the B and R of LIBERTY, they are sloped, very easy to see and a dead giveaway for master die doubling. I have stated this multiple times but no one pays attention....
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I have stated this multiple times but no one pays attention....

I hear ya man,I hear ya
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all you have to look at is the B and R of LIBERTY, they are sloped, very easy to see and a dead giveaway for master die doubling. I have stated this multiple times but no one pays attention....

I believe this (B and R slope) was identified as part of the Master Die Doubling decades ago. Has never been described as an end-all to other varieties.

To rule out all or partial Doubled Dies, because it exhibits MDD, seems misleading. Recommend everyone do there own research/homework.

https://doubleddie.com/300201.html
https://doubleddie.com/384301.html

More food for thought. The Master Doubled Die is present along side several re-punched mint marks. I think I'll continue to use it as a potential PUP, as oppose to a deal breaker. Thanks, Doug.
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I believe this (B and R slope) was identified as part of the Master Die Doubling decades ago. Has never been described as an end-all to other varieties.

To rule out all or partial Doubled Dies, because it exhibits MDD, seems misleading. Recommend everyone do there own research/homework.

https://doubleddie.com/300201.html
https://doubleddie.com/384301.html

More food for thought. The Master Doubled Die is present along side several re-punched mint marks. I think I'll continue to use it as a potential PUP, as oppose to a deal breaker. Thanks, Doug.
Doug, I paid little attention to the last time you brought this up, because I could tell you would probably not listen. Both times you have brought this to my attention, the OP was calling out one of the major doubled dies, which the master doubling does eliminate. I tend to forget the doubled 2's, which are the only other ones. The reason I do forget, I have been taught, by folks much sharper than me, that they are more likely re-engraved and not actually doubled dies at all, as is so thought, the master doubling. As long as they are listed as such by these highly recognized coin specialists, they will continue to be doubled dies though.

Time will tell, as more studies are done and as we all know, things change in the world of numismatics. Sometimes what we thought we always knew, is not.

Thanks.
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Doug, I paid little attention to the last time you brought this up, because I could tell you would probably not listen.
No worries. I do my best to listen, learn and try to pay attention. As you say maybe time will work something else out. But for now it is what it is. Thanks, Doug.
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