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10oz Englehard Bars, Real?

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 Posted 07/11/2023  8:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kennedy759 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
local guy is selling these, anyway to tell if the are real?
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A good weight scale, magnet, maybe a ping test, a local store that has a XRF analyzer that can go deep. Maybe you could buy them on condition if they test bad you'll get your money back.
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You could also look them up in the Engelhard registry.
https://allengelhard.com/10oz-draft/
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 Posted 07/11/2023  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hondo Boguss, that is a cool site about Engelhard bars. I have a 100 oz one from about 1986 my dad gave me.
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thanks hondo, great site
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You're welcome, kennedy. Livingwater, they have a page for 100 oz in case you hadn't found it.
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XRF doesn't go deep, unfortunately.

A well established bullion dealer can X Ray, ultrasound or magnetic resonance test.
A bullion dealer may have a standing contract with a competent materials testing laboratory; as a customer, you may have to wait a few days for the result.

Basic magnet test can sometimes provide cheap but fast supporting test info.
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Thx for helping me learn something today @hondo. I hadn't known about that website before.
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Spence, I didn't know about it myself before kennedy inspired me to look. I figured that if they had serial numbers, there must be a registry. Englehard also has a page about counterfeits, but I did not explore it.
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How much are they asking for each?
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$300 each or trade for a car
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Sooo compared them to the ones on the englehard page referenced above and figured out the 2 with P ser no are the most common US variety, am wondering about P142159, top two lines are stamped at an angle, the other 3 are the most common Canadian variety
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