1849 Braided Hair Cent - Doubled Die Reverse / DDR - Thoughts?

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Blastenpene4 Pillar of the Community United States 959 Posts	Posted 07/15/2023 08:13 am Seller's pics. He says it's an N-9, but it looks more like an N-27 to me. The problem is that Grellman's book showing N-27 makes no mention of the extensive die crack that nearly circles the reverse. His description of the doubled elements of N-27 matches almost exactly though. I will note that the base of the "T" in United looks tripled, not doubled, to me, however. Opinions? Edited by Blastenpene4 07/15/2023 09:04 am Report this Post to the Staff

panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18684 Posts	Posted 07/15/2023 09:40 am cant help with attribution but looks like a solid XF45 and may be sharp enough to make AU. Edited by panzaldi 07/15/2023 1:28 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5674 Posts	Posted 07/15/2023 09:52 am Looks like an N-8. Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5674 Posts	Posted 07/15/2023 12:19 pm Here's a good example of an N-8 on Heritage: https://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cent...ption-071515 Report this Post to the Staff
Blastenpene4 Pillar of the Community United States 959 Posts	Posted 07/15/2023 12:51 pm Don't see the die doubling in the N-8. This coin has legit die doubling. Edited by Blastenpene4 07/15/2023 2:35 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5674 Posts	Posted 07/15/2023 3:17 pm N-8 has pronounced doubling of STATES OF on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
Blastenpene4 Pillar of the Community United States 959 Posts	Posted 07/15/2023 5:03 pm I stand corrected - reference picture is from a better example. Must have been looking at the wrong link. Yes I see exactly what you all mean about N-8. That is clearly the variety of my coin. Thanks for setting me straight. I believe my coin makes low AU. I still think the base of the "T" in "United" looks to be tripled, not doubled, on my coin. Thoughts? Edited by Blastenpene4 07/16/2023 11:04 am Report this Post to the Staff
Blastenpene4 Pillar of the Community United States 959 Posts	Posted 07/16/2023 9:04 pm Can this coin make mid grade AU? Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5674 Posts	Posted 07/16/2023 10:38 pm Looks to me like it has AU-53 sharpness, although I'm not certain of the originality of the obverse surfaces. Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 4:55 pm Obverse cleaned, AU sharpness. I personally like this one. Couple of very minor tiny scratches above the head. There is enough sharpness left to see all of the die features. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse 07/17/2023 6:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Blastenpene4 Pillar of the Community United States 959 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 6:10 pm Here's what Grellman says in his 2020 die varieties book. I see the elongated lump to the right of the eye, but not much else on the obverse. Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18684 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 10:47 am i was going to call the obv cleaned but then found several similar braided hairs that looked the same. Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 3:02 pm If you bet me $25 this coin hadn't been cleaned or recolored I'd take the bet all day long. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
Blastenpene4 Pillar of the Community United States 959 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 5:18 pm I take that to mean that you do think it's been cleaned, paralyse. I own it, but it hasn't arrived yet. Will post new pictures when it's in-hand. I bought it for details and doubled die variety. Guess we'll see. Edited by Blastenpene4 07/18/2023 5:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Blastenpene4 Pillar of the Community United States 959 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 6:08 pm So just out of curiosity I went on ebay and searched PCGS slabbed coins. These 3 were all slabbed straight. The '51 really surprised me, but the other two both have odd areas that look like something has been on them other than normal wear and oxidation. The finer points of identifying cleaning, especially from a picture, still tend to elude me unless it's screamingly obvious. That's why I keep bugging you guys about it trying to learn!! Report this Post to the Staff
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1849 Braided Hair Cent - DDR - Thoughts?