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General Sherman Valued Member United States 125 Posts	Posted 07/25/2023 10:39 pm I've seen the 2008 Rev of 07 graded with either an MS or an SP grades from both NGC and PCGS on the ebay. I thought the grade designation should have been SP on all the holders and not MS. Does anyone know why there are MS grades for an SP coin? Report this Post to the Staff

Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 09:04 am General, To My understanding, the 2008-W "BURNISHED " Reverse of 2007 American Silver Eagle is a Burnished Finish, Like Uncirculated. Which Would Then enter the Title, MS-?, No.... The Coin in the Topic Here is The Only Significant Die Variety in the Series, It is a Mint State or Burnished Finish, Equaling the Mint State Designation, Am I addressing Your Concern.... Not Sure the Question Your Asking, Best Wishes, Sir !!! Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 10:49 am I Await the " Dearborn Effect. "...... Report this Post to the Staff
General Sherman Valued Member United States 125 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 11:03 am The 08-w 07 reverse was only minted as a speciman (SP) coin. So, I think all grades should be SP (some number) and not MS (Some number). If you search on the ebay, you'll see that some are designated MS and some are designated SP. If you then verify the cert on PCGS, it will have an SP(some Number) designation when the coin holder has an MS (some number) designation. Here's an example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/125994451457 https://www.PCGS.com/cert/12455856 So, I'm confused about the lack of consistency. Report this Post to the Staff
commems CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives United States 12255 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 1:15 pm As noted by Morgans_dad, this ASE variety is the uncirculated version struck specifically for collectors and sold to them directly by the Mint - it is generally referred to as "Burnished" finish. PCGS began designating these coins with "SP" in April 2015. Coins submitted prior would have been designated "MS" to represent their "Mint State" status. NGC also initially graded these varieties with the "MS" prefix before transitioning to "SP" labeling. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved. Report this Post to the Staff
General Sherman Valued Member United States 125 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 1:41 pm Quote: PCGS began designating these coins with "SP" in April 2015. Coins submitted prior would have been designated "MS" to represent their "Mint State" status. NGC also initially graded these varieties with the "MS" prefix before transitioning to "SP" labeling. Ah. That makes sense. So basically, older slabs = MS, newer slabs= SP Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 4:46 pm Thanks COMMEMS, We Ole Collectors are an Regimented Bunch. I see the Question Here. I see the Older Designations were MS. This Coin Has a Very Sweet Spot, In My Collection.... I had concerns when Mint's Own Verbiage was Changed From Uncirculated To Burnished... Talk about Evolving Nomenclature... I seem to recall the SUGAR FREE labels that came out, back When I was a Sprout, That Label was Mis-Leading Too.... Saccharin...Sugar Free with Chemicals.... Report this Post to the Staff
General Sherman Valued Member United States 125 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 7:59 pm Quote: We Ole Collectors are an Regimented Bunch. I see the Question Here. I see the Older Designations were MS. This Coin Has a Very Sweet Spot, In My Collection.... I'm planning to pick one of these up and when I started doing my ebay searches I noticed the descrepency. I started thinking that there may be 2 varities so I was super confued. Glad we got to the bottom of it. My search . . . CONTINUES Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94892 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 9:22 pm my 08 with reverse of the 07 is an SP69 graded ASE. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 9:48 pm John, My Original Mint Packaged 2008 Rev of 2007 is Sweet... I have Another, Slabbed Too...... There are Another Estimated 46,998 More Out There.... General, In My Opinion, I Love the The Coin in The Originally Packaged , All OGP, Just The Sweetest..... ........ Best Wishes.... Report this Post to the Staff
General Sherman Valued Member United States 125 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 9:55 pm Quote: General, In My Opinion, I Love the The Coin in The Originally Packaged , All OGP, Just The Sweetest..... ........ Best Wishes.... Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94892 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 10:15 pm Very nice Mike! I don't think you can even find these in OGP anymore. EDIT: Just went and looked - yes you can, ebay has 3 of them going for about $500-600 each. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 07/26/2023 10:20 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 07/26/2023 10:40 pm John, Were they described as Near Perfect, Perfect ? Mine is PERFECT...........( not for sale, @ any Price). Edited to Say, I just checked the Bay, All, Just 2- examples of the OGP Coins, Have Spots, Not Good, All for Just $595.00 Buyers Beware !!!! Edited by Morgans Dad 07/26/2023 10:45 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Gilly Pillar of the Community United States 1217 Posts	Posted 07/27/2023 08:30 am Should be a ton of OGP out there, way more than have been graded. I'd even venture to guess that there are more OGP and undiscovered than there are graded Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 07/27/2023 08:54 am GILLY, We are of the Same Mind Set....... Plenty of Silent Collectors, Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94892 Posts	Posted 07/27/2023 09:09 am Quote: I'd even venture to guess that there are more OGP and undiscovered than there are graded Wouldn't that be a sweet surprise to find one still in OGP? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
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