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Is This 1936-S (Icg MS-66) Buffalo Nickel A Full Split Tail Coin?

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For the life of me I can't find a decent closeup photo of a Buffalo nickel with a Full Split Tail to compare my coin to. It's such a small detail and magnification tends to play havoc with picture quality. Sorry. These photos are the best I can manage with my phone using a magnification app. Does this coin qualify as "Split Tail"? Comments and explanations are appreciated!!

If you have any good closeup images of a split tail Buffalo I'd appreciate seeing them.

Thanks in advance!

Dan


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@1949, can you please mention the date of this coin so that I can add this information as well as the mint to the title? Thx.
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Much sharper closeups needed.
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The only place I've seen "FSTL" used as a designation in the same way that FSB or FS are used is a certain online seller who's notorious for making up their own "special designations" in order to try to squeeze money out of normal coins. No TPGs use or recognize this designation and the only standard for what qualifies as "FSTL" comes from that said online seller.
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In response to CherryPicker1 - You are absolutely right. I think I saw the FSTL sticker on a coin listed on ebay and just assumed it was something that I hadn't become aware of yet. Thanks for the bit of education. That brings up another question though... do the TPGs note Full Split Tail, if present, in their grading of Buffalo's?
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The tail might be something they take into account when considering the strength of the strike. I think the buffalo's horn is probably one of the first things they look at to determine the strength of strike and amount of wear on a coin.
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i would say take photos with just the phone do not use magnification it distorts all the devices. try the following and we should be able to assess the coin.

1. if coin is in holder, remove coin from holder if possible
2. turn off flash
3. place coin on flat surface with indirect natural light. maybe a window sill in a cloudy day. Use a black or white background to avoid any reflective color
4. move phone about 3in from coin
5. zoom in using your fingers until the coin comes into focus and fills the cameras view finder. if your phone has a portrait selection use that and then press and hold on the coin in the view finder to AF lock it
6. hold phone steady. if you cant then place something on either side of the coin (like books) at that distance and lay phone between them. this will hold it steady and allow you to zoom and take the photo without any blurring


FYI - buffs are not easy to grade. especially earlier years. you just cant look at one or two markers for grading as there were strike issues, mismatched dies, die polishing etc. photograde may get you in the ballpark but narrowing down the actual grade requires knowledge of what was going on at that mint at that time
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