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1901 Penny - I Can't Figure Out Why This Is Like This?

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So this Indian Head penny from 1901 looks to be coated with copper. The inside another metal all together. My understanding the 1901 penny was 95% copper. Even the coloring just looks off. I'd say it's a fake but, this was in my grandmother's things for 50 years. Anyone got any idea? Has to be fake right?
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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like acid was involved in some way.



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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jethro4635 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it may have been gold plated at some time in past..but I'll defer to experts as I'm a newbie I e myself
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Welcome! What an odd coin. The obverse may have been gilded or painted, but the reverse is so corroded it's hard to tell if there was ever a design on it. One possibility is contemporary counterfeit, but a fake cent would hardly be worth it. Let's see what others think.
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First, can you tell us the weight?
Also, check the edge for a seam as it may have been a cast counterfeit.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cicirieer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Coinfrog! Seriously though. I just can't figure this out unless it was for selling as a strange fake gift shop coin? I couldn't find anything via Google about this being a thing for that coin.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An accurate weight to two decimal places might be interesting to determine.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cicirieer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok. Gonna go dig out scale and check. Been packed away a while so hoping they still work.
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Ok I can't find scales right now. But mentioning the seam I took these pics to see if it helps give an answer.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never use metal to hold coins with.
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oh OUCH! metal tongs? - huge no-no if you please.
But I'll go along with possible plating or coating of paint a very long time ago.
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The shoulder on the rim could indicate it was mounted, perhaps glued, in some sort of jewelry item.
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Definitely was damaged in some way. PMD.
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Is nobody else seeing a casting seam? Because I'm seeing a casting seam.

Which leads to the next question: who would want or need to make a uniface cast copy of an 1901 Indian Head cent?

The fact that zero effort has gone into copying the obverse, indicates to me it was not intended as either a circulating or numismatic counterfeit.

My best guess, based on the stippled surface of the obverse, is that it was made for gluing or inserting into some other object, like a book cover or piece of furniture.
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Good point Sap! Maybe it was made to be placed into a leather belt or the buckle.
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