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 Posted 08/09/2023  05:10 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dimeanique78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was curious as to whether or not Machine Doubling can also be represented on a coin that is truly a doubled die? If so does anyone have an example or know of a publication that does? Thanks..Tara
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It can.
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I was curious as to whether or not Machine Doubling can also be represented on a coin that is truly a doubled die? If so does anyone have an example or know of a publication that does?

Yes and yes. You can search here above as needed or I'll search for known example's if needed later. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 08/09/2023  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There you go!



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Yes. It can happen on true Doubled Dies.
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Sometimes both types of doubling can be seen on the same coin, such as on the coin here which is also a nice article that describes the doubled die vs Machine Doubling. https://www.ngccoin.com/news/articl...ne-Doubling/

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Well on that note, I may possibly have a 1960D Lincoln Cent that represents both types. I know its extremely rare to also have a single coin that has both DDO & DDR as well as MD. I suppose I could also be seeing something else entirely. So please look at the photos and let me know what you see. A sincere thank you in advance..Tara
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Oh I forgot to say where I believe I see anything. So on the obverse I think there is actual D.D. on the mint mark, the 1 & 9 on the date, on IN & G and possibly on the nose and chin. I also see M.D. at Lincolns back. On the reverse I believe true D.D. on the letters E, C & E of one cent.
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How about some attribution numbers? Finding a DDO and a DDR and MD on the same coin is like finding teeth on a rooster
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No they don't. The old saying might be rare as hens' teeth.
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Sorry, but -
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How about some attribution numbers? Finding a DDO and a DDR and MD on the same coin is like finding teeth on a rooster
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John, with fewer than 30 posts, I can be about certain that the OP does not even know what you mean by "attributions".
The question raised by the OP clearly gives the impression that some research has been done in this matter.
Your reply strikes me as rather dismissive rather than inspiring. Something like, "Come back when you know what you are talking about".
That is why people come here. To learn from the learned so that they may better understand. They seek advice, sometimes ridicule assertions, yes. And it can become frustrating to the more knowledgeable. They seek tutors, not flippant responses.
You cannot begin to imagine how much knowledge I have gained from this community and the references provided here. So much so, that I do a lot more reading here than chiming in.

I am quite certain that this new member gained little knowledge on their inquiry, as the focus of the question has been derailed. And now has shifted to rooster teeth!

I strongly disagree with this statement. Roosters having teeth is impossible, agreed? There are known examples of DDO with DDR, agreed? Doubled die hubs are varieties, agreed? Machine Doubling (MD) is a die event, agreed? Many die events are considered errors, agreed?

Roosters with teeth is impossible. A 1983 copper cent is impossible. A new variety is impossible. If it ain't listed somewheres, it don't exist. We'll where do you think all of the ones you look for came from? Someone found it!
Go camping for a week or two. Nothing clears a mind better.
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I didn't mean to waste anyone's time here. I still don't know any more about this coin and feel a bit foolish for even posting it now. I'm sorry. Please just disregard it if you haven't already. Have a nice evening everyone.
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My answer is Yes, but never forgot that in the MD category you has Double Die Deterioration, then is Machine Doubling and the Mechanical Doubling. What me I see more it is DD's and DDD.
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My apologies to everyone
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