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1999 P Nickel Machine Doubling ?

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 Posted 08/11/2023  06:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canuckelhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I know this is probable Machine Doubling but the P and the L have me a little confused..something looks different.

Thanks for the input.
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Yes you are correct--shelf-like and serving to reduce the width of the devices means Machine Doubling.
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Yes, Machine Doubling. Nice example.
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A great example of Machine Doubling.
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I am going to have to disagree with the diagnosis of Machine Doubling. To me, that melted butter look is classic Die Deterioration Doubling. You can see soft rounding and radial flow on both the obverse and reverse, consistent with late stage Die Deterioration. Examine the second DDD example on Error Ref, which just so happens to be a 1999 nickel:

https://www.error-ref.com/?s=Die+de...ion+doubling

The devices on this nickel look a little withered and softened, but they are arguably the correct device width compared to an ordinary nickel. I have yet to see examples of machine doubling—either push or rotation—where the sheared metal wasn't a steep edge from the parent device.

https://www.error-ref.com/?s=Push+doubling

Also, as someone who CRH nickels with a magnifier, I can state from experience that recent nickels do not often display classic Machine Doubling, but lots and lots of them show Die Deterioration like this example. For whatever reason, from about 1997-2003, the U.S. Mint just ran their nickel dies into the grave.
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when the devices look melty like that, I've always classified it as DDD
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