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Valued Member
United States
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Trying to learn more about this series in my never-ending quest to get one, opinions on how this grade was arrived at? Looks like a 1 or 2 to me, what am I missing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/364418748365
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Moderator
 United States
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Yes the obverse seems to be basically a slick, but the reverse has some nice detail between the chain and the denomination. Having separate grades for both sides would be more accurate.
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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I can see it getting an AG-3 but VG-10 seems way above reasonable even for the reverse alone.
Only way this could possibly be called VG-10 (other than "typo", which I suspect is the most likely scenario) is if someone got confused at how ungranular the normal scale is for lower-grade Chain cents. (There's a lot of differences in remaining detail that get lumped into PO-1, and nearly as many that get lumped into FR-2.) I imagine some of the basement graders probably work that way.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5825 Posts |
I can't tell from those images. But I believe the grading of Chain Cents is "different" than later issues.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
That must be the case, becuase VG10 seems quite a stretch.
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Valued Member
United States
295 Posts |
I know the graders tend to be more lenient on early coppers but VG-10 for this does seem like a stretch. My only thought is that maybe the photography is obscuring the details on the obverse. Perhaps it looks better in hand.
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Moderator
 United States
15395 Posts |
No way could that be a VG10 coin, the obverse is basically a slick piece of copper.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
Part of the problem is very bad photography. If I isolate just the coin in a new tab and blow it up about 500% I do see the entire bust, it's not just a slick, but exactly how much if any detail is there I can't tell form the pictures.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4085 Posts |
Maybe it's just me, but that slab looks sketchy as heck to me and combined with the price on it seems like a no brainer hard pass.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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