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1935 Walking Liberty Half - Literally!

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I have had this coin a while. I am pretty confident it is not the real deal, meaning a broken planchet error. It is silver(not cast or pot metal), it weighs 7.28g as opposed to the normal 12.5g. Looks like a cast copy in some areas but a genuine coin in others. Like I said, it is silver. What are your thoughts?
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I have no experience on anything like this, but judging by the 2nd picture it's post mint damage. I would guess this because of the built up edge on it, like if you scraped a penny on the sidewalk, it would develop a built up seam. But the 3rd picture pretty much ruins this threory because it's not smooth. Soo.... I have no clue.
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The edge where the clip should be is raised like it was cut off. On a normal clip the metal flows thinner in that area. Also no Blakeskey effect which would have happened during the setup process of the rim. So I'm not thinking its real.
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Seems to be cut from rin to top of wing. What ever was used to make the cut had enough seperating pressure to break the coin the rest of the way. Just an opinion of course.
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The edge where the clip should be is raised like it was cut off.


Oh, I never knew that. nice to know
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Looks about three pieces of a piece of eight?
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coop, I'm thinking a "broken planchet" error not a clip. This is not a clip. Thanks.
Similar to this:
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Not familiar with those. It would be nice to see a closer view of one to see if the fit the clip description and where it needs to be changed to include these. I bet Mike Diamond may have an image of one. Let's see if he picks up on this thread?
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Yeah, I bet Mike knows. I'm pretty sure it's post mint like someone tore it in half but, you never know
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Looks almost like it was cut Hot.
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First, it's interesting, if nothing else. You say that it looks like "a cast copy in some areas but a genuine coin in others". Are you refering to the graininess or do you see pitting under magnification? Any tiny holes would be a dead give away that it's cast, ie surface bubbles. It's the edge that bother's me, it doesn't look like a clean break, especially the area above the eagles wing, which is strait as if cut. Basically, it's not a Mint error due to the raised area at the edge of the reverse. A broken planchet would not have this.(Great pics by the way!) ~ Jim
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If might also be a defective planchet that was helped along by a person and his garage
I would look for marks that indicate leverage to the coin. Either force was exerted on this coin, or the planchet broke after striking.
The raised edge around the break might be a clue as to what happened here...it certainly was not there at striking.
If the coin started with a defect, and then was hinged repeatedly to break the coin, that could create a raised edge...
At the far right (white arrow), the part of the break looks almost done by a tool
Well, just some ideas...I'll wait for the expert guys

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Thanks for that great picture enhancement! Wow. Anyway, I figured for $12, what the heck. At the very least, an interesting conversation piece.

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Any tiny holes would be a dead give away that it's cast, ie surface bubbles.

Thanks for the comments Jim. Under magnification, I see no evidence of this being a cast copy. I believe it's a genuine Walker.
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