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 Posted 03/31/2009  3:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, what's this?

Is this a Cud? If so, why do I see a trace of the wheat stalk?

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 Posted 03/31/2009  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a neat looking find. Good going.
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 Posted 03/31/2009  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a Cud. IMO, it it even better than a cud- it is a Retained Cud of which there should be many less examples of that than of the corresponding full Cud. The die broke but the piece of the shank has not completely fallen away, essentially part of the die is displaced from the rest of the die face but the die itself is still intact. I am not sure how many strikes you can get out of a die with a Retained Cud but I cannot imagine that it would be many before that part of the die completely broke away.
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 Posted 03/31/2009  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've got similar to it or maybe from the same die?
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Sorry I don't have the date handy for it right now.

ADDED:
It's not. I just moved my image up next to the first one posted and the two dies broke in different places. Mine is really a Retained Cud not a Cud or break as the description leads us to believe. I need to re-edit that image.
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03/31/2009 6:31 pm
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 Posted 03/31/2009  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look very similar. Not precisely the same, but then my example is quite worn.
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 Posted 03/31/2009  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool find DL!
Comparing yours to Coop's, I think they're different dies.
Look at where the Retained Cud starts on yours (after the point of the stalk tip).
While on Coop's coin, it crosses through the point.
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 Posted 03/31/2009  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should have noticed that since I did notice that the bottom line of the Cud is different. That makes me wonder why this particular part of the die was apparently pront to breaking?
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 Posted 03/31/2009  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jorgy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Retained Cuds are kool..this is the only one I have ever found. Pictures not that great.
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 Posted 03/31/2009  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've always thought they were a tease. I would rather find a Cud instead. Just a few hundred more coins from that die and it would have been a Cud.
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