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ID Help On A Silver Hammered Coin.

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 Posted 10/13/2023  09:23 am Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add MetDet71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all. Picked a few hammered coins up recently and have them all in coin flips and put away apart from this one.
Someone suggested Henry VI and someone else suggested Richard III. I can't see much difference, thought maybe someone here could educate me.

15mm and 0.70 grams.

Thank you.


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 Posted 10/13/2023  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samoth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These can be a nightmare to attribute... and you have no legends or IMs!

Looking at Wren's Long Cross guide:

- First: Center of rx. I think the rosette has 5 petals, so this would be a quatrefoil (with pellet): York issues, Ed IV, Rich III

- Second: Nothing apparent next to the neck, unless that's a key/saltire on the right, and the left is obscured...

- Third: Pellets next to crown: Henry VI (leaf-pellet issue; matches York if saltires next to neck)

- Fourth: It looks like there's something on the breast, but I can't figure out what... looks kind of like an inverted leaf or pinecone.

Also, I don't know if what you have is a penny or halfpenny... I don't have any references for the latter outside of Spink.

Hopefully there's an English penny expert around here.
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I'd guess a penny, with that much clipped away and given the remaining weight.

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Henry VI penny from York, Archbishop Booth, leaf-pellet issue (S 1924). Quatrefoil (4 petals) with pellet in centre; leaf on breast; pellet each side of crown. No saltires.

Saltires next to neck are on the cross-pellet issue with a cross also in the quatrefoil instead of a pellet (S 1940).
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Thank you all.
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