1804 Half Cent Piece Real Or Fake? - Coin Community Forum

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roach Valued Member United States 364 Posts	Posted 10/20/2023 8:21 pm Just got this one and the seller insists its real. What say you Coin community? weight is 5.34 Grams. ... Report this Post to the Staff

MisterT Pillar of the Community United States 2003 Posts	Posted 10/20/2023 8:54 pm Your title says 2 cents when in fact it is a draped bust Half Cent. Looks consistent with the 1804 spiked chin variety with crossed 4 and stems. Even the rippled field in front of the throat area is a correct marker. The weight is only 1/10th of a gram under weight which should be within specs. It does have a somewhat grainy appearance however and if genuine must have been cleaned at some point to display this color. I'm leaning toward genuine but I digress to those more knowledgeable with this series. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34406 Posts	Posted 10/20/2023 8:56 pm Fixed the title. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 10/20/2023 9:14 pm I'll say VF details (cleaned). Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74066 Posts	Posted 10/20/2023 11:09 pm Looks genuine to me. XF Details sounds right. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
roach Valued Member United States 364 Posts	Posted 10/21/2023 08:25 am Thanks for fixing the title! I was tired when I posted it and 2 Cents and Half Cents are about the same size. Like most of you I saw the Spiked chin Variety and the "fingerprint" on the right side of the obverse and thought---yeah looks real! But look closely at the reverse and compare it to the 4 known Cohen varieties for Spiked chins....particular the position of the 2 in 1/200. Either this is a new previously unknown variety, or its a fake. Change anyone opinions? Report this Post to the Staff
MisterT Pillar of the Community United States 2003 Posts	Posted 10/21/2023 12:38 pm A few of my first observations were of the obverse. The eye socket doesn't look normal. The roughness around the date and behind the hair curls plus the hairlines behind the hair ribbon. The reverse looks a little odd too with planchet flaws that almost resemble clash marks, whatever is going on in front of the 200 and after the 200, the word "HALF" looks slanted and the graininess of the lettering. A lot of questionable red flags for this old novice to the series! Report this Post to the Staff
johnjkedel Pillar of the Community United States 594 Posts	Posted 10/21/2023 2:30 pm I say NOT genuine . Too many inconsistencies on the reverse, not to mention the graininess. Could I be wrong? - maybe - but that"s my opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
Oldgrouchyguy Pillar of the Community United States 630 Posts	Posted 10/24/2023 09:42 am Looks like they married the obverse to a reverse belonging to an 1803... Report this Post to the Staff
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