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1922 P Peace Dollar Low Relief

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 Posted 11/29/2023  12:12 pm Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this just a super strong strike with correctly installed dies or could this be something else? I already checked VAM world looks like a normal b2 reverse however the coin is struck extremely well, I'd honestly say it's struck better than most 1922s. The dies were polished lightly, the polishing marks are basically not visible unless you really search the coin over. Is this a circulation strike? Her hair is very well defined and there is about as full of a strike as you could ever want for this coin. The ray in between the E and R in LIBERTY is also extremely well struck with quite a bit of detail, all lettering on the front is very visible and easy to read. The eagle all rays and all lettering on the reverse are well struck nice full feathers and long rays. This coin is beautiful in hand. Is this a Business/circulation strike or maybe something else?
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Apologies for the last photo the capsule was dirty the marks up by America are on the capsule not the coin
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If more photos are needed please let me know.
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 Posted 11/29/2023  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not my field, but a knockout coin.
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Same as Frog, not my wheelhouse. I hope some expertise comes this way soon. Beautiful example though!
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With everything I will say, I will say I know little to nothing about Peace dollars, Morgans are more my speed. As you say in the title, it is a low relief strike, not the rare high relief. The obverse would appear to be an earlier die, as opposed to the reverse, which looks to be a older die. The obverse does look crisper, more defined than normal but a new die would explain this. The only other thing I could think of was maybe a thick planchet, which made it strike up better. Check the weight.
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 Posted 11/30/2023  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will check the weight tonight however I will also post photos of this coin compared to another ms 1922 with a even strike. They look completely different but the thick planchet is a good idea to check I'll get back to everyone with weight and comparison photos
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 Posted 12/12/2023  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin was a full planchet strike (weight-26.74g) with a slightly deteriorated polished die. Appears to be normal. Sorry I didn't get back sooner I've been working on product photography for work.
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 Posted 02/09/2024  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was able to finally get better photos of what this Peace dollar looks like I'm thinking it's some kind of proof check out the square rims and the 2nd rim? I'm sending it off for grading regardless but thought I'd share.
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The reverse lettering isn't close to strong enough to be a proof, which would be matte or satin and this piece is neither of those.

You have a normal business strike 1922 Peace dollar. Maybe MS64 and worth about $60. Best case in the grading room is they go 65 and then it's worth about $100 but it doesn't look that good.
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 Posted 02/10/2024  11:59 am  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree BH1964 the lettering on the reverse was my only hold up.

It more than likely is a normal business strike in all reality. The chances of it being anything else are basically impossible. I may be foolish sometimes but not completely ignorant.

I have a bit of money I can "waist" on grading so that's what I will do and when it comes back MS 63 or something reasonable I'll say "yup kinda figured lol" but if for some off hand chance it comes back as something else it would be worth it. Am I probably going to take a loss on grading this coin, more than likely.(and that's ok) I originally bought this back in march last year and when I bought it I thought it was absolutely nothing at all I bought it purely on a whim. it took till late november for me to fully analize it and feel comfortable sharing here that it may not be normal. I sat for another 2 months thinking on this one and its a gamble I'm willing to make. At any rate I got some cool photos of what I see when I look at the coin and more than anything I just wanted to post them up. I'm happy now and will keep on my plan because well.. I can! Every one needs at least one grading fail right? I haven't even sent in a single coin grading submission yet, this can be one of my fails. And I'd be happy with it. I'm not going to loose money for no reason and this loss would at least be educational. Maybe it's a lesson I need to finally learn. At any rate I got to share my thoughts and photos and that made me happy for now which is what matters to me, and as long as I'm having fun and not going broke I'm good with it. I guess it time to see if refining my coin submission for 3 years was worth it or not. Here are some photos forgot I had these
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Coin on left is this post coin. right coin is bu ms 63 ish

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Coin on left is coin from post. Coin on right is bu ms 63 ish
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