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1896 Barber Quarter: Straight Clip Planchet, PMD, Cut?

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I had combined shipping on ebay for some coins, spotted this Barber quarter, and was intrigued. Net cost was $2 above melt value, so I decided what the heck. At first glance, I thought it was an off center strike, but then I saw the missing metal across from the thickest rim section. What say you, o' coin experts? Did I pick a cherry or a lemon?

btw, these are seller pics, I should have the coin shipment by early next week.
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Guessing it's pretty hard to tell with this much wear, but I'll wait for the experts.
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Not seeing any Blakesley Effect on the obverse and the reverse is too worn to tell. I'm guessing PMD
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I'm guessing PMD, but we won't know for sure, until you get it in hand.
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I think it is too worn to know for sure.
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Great pictures, too bad so worn.
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First impression, I do not think it is a straight clip.
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Even in hand I doubt a clip can be clearly corrorborated.
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fwiw, the coin arrived today. As understood, there is a considerable amount of wear. Is there anything I should image closely?
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Can you provide a picture like the first picture of the clip on this site? https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/43...ed-planchet/
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Actually, I see something else too: can you take the diameter of the coin? Between the right side of the N in UNITED to the other side of the coin, roughly to the C in AMERICA?
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With the circulation wear of the coin , any Blakesley effect opposite the anomaly or Smith effect at the anomaly may have disappeared.
The circulation wear is also curiously related to the anomaly. The obverse seems more worn and the reverse more protected at the "clip".
Is there anything to see on the edge of the coin at the anomaly.
A possible cause could have been a hit to the edge of the coin. Flattening that part of the edge and dragging/bulging the displaced metal towards the reverse. This would expose the obverse design elements and protect the reverse design elements at the point of damage,to ,and from ,circulation wear.
Just something to consider.
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My first thought was that someone was doing a little silver mining, i.e. "clipping" in the PMD sense. I also noted the difference in wear - protected near the clip on the reverse but more worn there on the obverse. So I wonder if the coin is slightly bent there from the clipping.
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I will work on some photos this evening. The only calipers I have are analog (mechanical) drafting compasses, so I will have to check with my metal working and machinist friends to see if I can borrow a digital calipers.

I will say now, the coin is worn. The reeds are gone around the perimeter, except as faint memories.
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Weight?
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Still waiting on the calipers. I haven't forgotten about this coin, but I've been really busy with holiday prep (lights are up!). My coin stuff has been mostly online, unless it can fit in my little axial photo box.
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