194x-S Jefferson War - PMD Or Mint?

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DOCC Pillar of the Community United States 1502 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 5:27 pm Wasn't planning on conserving this ground find but interested in learning if what happened to date was Mint or PMD. Obviously the coin took a major hit post mint really close to the date. But the date is totally unrecognizable and I do not think the hit is responsible. I'm guessing it is some form of LAM but seems pretty extreme. It almost looks like the planchet wasn't well formed. Thoughts? I'm interested in learning about this one. I have it soaking now with hopes of making the area more visible. Edited by DOCC 12/01/2023 5:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff

-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8750 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 5:36 pm It would be good to get the coin cleaned up before we evaluate. What is going on the rest of the coin would help to know what may be happening with the area in question. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
DOCC Pillar of the Community United States 1502 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 5:40 pm Makes sense makecents, I'll post better shots in a few hours. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74189 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 5:45 pm Standing by. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 6:58 pm What are you soaking it in? Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 7:04 pm For me seem to be 1944 S. The orientation of the S. Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6505 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 7:23 pm Just based on how flat and sharply different the columns are from the background, I am going to bet on sanded. Report this Post to the Staff
DOCC Pillar of the Community United States 1502 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 7:44 pm Quote: What are you soaking it in? In Acetone now. Report this Post to the Staff
DOCC Pillar of the Community United States 1502 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 7:48 pm BM, but the date? It has cavities. As best as I can compare, think gold nugget. A LAM should be a failry consistent as far as I know. Hang tight, Acetone doing its work and coin is getting much clearer - I'll post updated shots in an hour. Report this Post to the Staff
DOCC Pillar of the Community United States 1502 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 8:26 pm Alrighty then, I'm going to call it a 1945-S LAM now that it has cleaned up. That seperation south of the date became clearer. Shame it has the parking lot scrape. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96071 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 8:40 pm looks like a 1945 with a lam over the date. But you did a great job getting most of the gunk off this coin. I don't think there is any intentional damage to this coin, just a major scrape on the obverse and heavy circulation wear. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74189 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 8:57 pm Nice Lamination. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
DOCC Pillar of the Community United States 1502 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 8:59 pm I was just about to call a mulligan Dearborn. Given the depth of perceived LAM, how would the numbers of the date still be visible. I would imagine they would have lifted off with lost metal. LAM or issue with original planchet - I'll call it a mint error either way. Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 12/01/2023 9:20 pm One think is sure: this it ia not an Mint error. You can call how you want, but it is not an error. At 500 Si alloy, ground coin as per your declation, cracking and exfoliations ocur. Then the coin was sand out to heck. The date it is uncertanlly, so will not qualify for an P1. You like keep but you lost a space. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96071 Posts	Posted 12/02/2023 1:53 pm I think it was a pre strike lam, which would explain the date showing in the lam Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
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