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1880-S $1 Morgan Dollar #10

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$62. This one isn't from the usual doctored pics suspect sellers - auctionkings, denver coins. Has 15 revised feedback. Likely another dealer with jacked photos. We'll see when we get it in. Thoughts? Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 12/03/2023  12:41 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The pics look MS64PL which is a $200 coin. $62 is a steal if it looks like those pics.
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tough call with these photos. they make the coin appear to be PL. lots of glare can be hiding anything. pretty common in PL state. seeing through that glare MS63 or 64PL. will know better when it comes in
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I think the deep scuffs in the field and on the cheek make this one MS-63PL.
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I agree with all comments so far. Let's hope it looks close to this nice when you open it!
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I agree with the MS-63 grade. Once you get it in hand, it might be a different grade.
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This came in. Not altogether bad for the price, Thoughts? Thanks!

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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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significant lighting tricks...

MS63 no PL
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The luster, strike and surfaces say strong 64. The cheek hurts a bit but I'd still call it MS64.
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Agree with these recent posts. If not for that tough cheek, this would be MS64 or better. But that cheek will probably keep at 63. The seller sure doctored those photos pretty heavily.
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I just wanted to share what I see when looking at this coin. It is prooflike or DMPL and I don't agree that the seller had doctored photos. Pictures will never do this coin justice. Video is the only way to capture any semblance of its awesomeness. Your thoughts may differ.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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It's a beautiful coin - no doubt. 1880-S is very often found in PL and DMPL like the '81-S. I guess "doctored" was a bad choice of words. I wasn't implying that they were attempting to hide problems, just capture everything in one shot. My intent was to say that the photos had to be stacked in some way to show both the mirrors and cameo contrast. That usually results in a "cartoon" effect unless the photographer knows what they're doing. As you know better than most, if you look at enough of these auction / sales photos versus the actual coin in hand, you can usually tell what is being attempted in the photos - whether with good or bad intentions.
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after seeing the vid I'm still at MS63. maybe SPL
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Minor not deep enough for PL so I'm at MS-63SPL.
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I am at MS-63 with the video, I don't think it is quite enough to be PL, but that is always judged better in-hand.
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