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I Got My New 2023 Uncirculated Mint Set With A DDR On Eleanor Roosevelt Quarter?

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easy to see it is incuse when you look at the lighting on the last 2 images. (the globe lines are raised) - now see what side the light is on. Then look at the letters and see where the lighting is on them.

and Incuse MD will enlarge a device - raised MD will reduce the size of them.

a Coop reply in a previous topic: http://goccf.com/t/300641#2566791
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Tanman2001 why do you call them incuse ?


Because they are
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It an OP thing.
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@ CU

Because is human to see superficially. If I look at the photos I can tell the light come from the Right side but on incuse will be on the left side.

I do not see doubling here. MD more. The incuse lettering has no parallel with the pre 1999 coins varieties.
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Here is Coop's post on incuse doubling.
http://goccf.com/t/422808&SearchTer...use,doubling
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This may sound odd, but I can't tell for sure if the letters are incuse or raised. At lower magnification I can convince myself that they are incuse but the more it's magnified, the more sure I am that they are raised ( like 60x - 80x ). On the proofs they are obviously incuse and don't look doubled at all. If I had a circulated specimen I'd just drag a 28 ga needle across it to satisfy myself. Interesting optical illusion, though.
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Here are my shots from the DENVER Eleanor Roosevelt Quarter.
Never seen anything like it before.
Sure looks tripled in the first shot to me.
Thoughts?

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A little different lighting on the last one.

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Sure looks tripled in the first shot to me.
Once again, this is Machine Doubling on incused devices. A doubted die on incused devices makes them smaller. MD makes them bigger. These quarters are loaded with MD. I often joke about that it's easier to find one with MD than it is to find one without.
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Yes, I believe we have Machine Doubling going on.
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of course I had to start looking closely at my Roosevelt 25 cent's.
It is a bit mind boggling at first but mine also show the same Doubling
which after reading up on it all, is indeed Machine Doubling on incuse features.
Dats what I think, anywho.
..and holy cow there are alot of tiny die chips/gouges on these coins.
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This may sound odd, but I can't tell for sure if the letters are incuse or raised. At lower magnification I can convince myself that they are incuse but the more it's magnified, the more sure I am that they are raised. ... Interesting optical illusion, though.

It's the same brain phenomenon that causes the concave face illusion. Hold the tablet or computer screen at arm's length and your brain will suddenly switch to interpreting the information correctly.
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holy cow there are alot of tiny die chips/gouges on these coins.
And according to ebay there all priceless errors.
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And according to ebay there all priceless errors.


..and very unfortunately, they are now part of the Grading Score/Description at one or all of
the Coin Grading Services. (not sure the details on this) but yeah.
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