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Help ID Islamic Bronze 4

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 Posted 12/21/2023  11:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Mikish to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Any help would definitely be appreciated, this one is 23mm and 3.87 grams.

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 Posted 12/30/2023  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would have thought that someone versed in Arabic script would be able to drop a clue or two....just saying....
I really should make the effort to learn it. I've just started learning Nagari though.... could be confusing.
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 Posted 12/30/2023  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's difficult because it's overstruck and a bit of a mess. What stands out is al-malik/ al-Zahir// al-imam/ al-Nasir, appropriate legends for the Ayyubid al-Zahir Ghazi at Aleppo, al-Nasir being the 'Abbasid caliph. However, both inscriptions should be within a dotted hexagram. Here, only the obverse is. The al-Nasir inscription is within a dotted octolobe. The solution seems to be that it is a fals of al-'Aziz Muhammad, 1216-1236, struck over the same denomination of al-Zahir Ghazi, 1186-1216. The caliph during the early years of al-'Aziz was still al-Nasir and indeed the borders of his coins are octolobes. So although a reverse citing al-Nasir would be appropriate for a coin of al-Zahir, it is actually a reverse of al-'Aziz struck over al-Zahir. This is a case where both the overtype and the undertype are equally represented, making it hard to tell which is which.
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 Posted 01/03/2024  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the information and in depth explanation. Any leads on my other posts would still be great too.
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