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Pillar of the Community
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I have what I believe is an unlisted Cud . I did give it an acetone bath . If not a Cud please direct me to what you think it could be thanks for taking a look an opinions.    
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Well it looks like one. Is that feature higher then the rim? What does the obverse look like in that area - it is hard to see , as the images are a bit dark.
Edited by Dearborn 12/23/2023 08:04 am
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Pillar of the Community
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The Cud in question is definitely raised above the rim the the obverse side shows light weakness in the area opposite the Cud in question. But I will admit I thought it would show more weakness than it does.
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Pillar of the Community
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It does not look like a Cud to me. I could be wrong. Looks like the devices were there first and something covered them up. Again I could be wrong
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Pillar of the Community
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I did just weigh it and it is right on spec at 3.1 grams
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Pillar of the Community
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If it's a Cud would the rim still be visible on the edge?
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Pillar of the Community
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Jasper62 that is a great point. Which caused me to go back to Cuds on coins. And from what I can see in most cases the Cud consume the rim and in other cases can just barely see the outside rim. Not sure what to think on this one had someone added that much metal to the coin certainly the weight would have increased.I guess this is why we talk about it to figure out what it is. It doesn't add up to anything I can explain.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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On the border between Rim Cud & Interior Retained Cud. Maybe? Regardless of what you call it, the rim is definitely involved. With that said, it is odd looking, more like solder applied or something squeezed onto the coin in layers. Not so much like a Cud occurring during minting.
Edited by Tacc 12/23/2023 1:05 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Hmm. 
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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The pattern of it does look similar to a weld. The back and forth overlapping wave pattern. But that's just my observation. ?
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Pillar of the Community
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I will admit haven't delt with but a few Cuds and its formations do look a little different to me but if someone had added metal to this coin I would think that I would see a greater weight than 3.1 grams I can try picking at it with a toothpick and see what happens. But if it was welded on or solder on the toothpick will do nothing but break.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:I will admit haven't delt with but a few Cuds I have only found 3 myself, so my comment on your coin is really just my opinion of course. Hopefully our better qualified peeps here will have some opinions to add. 
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Pillar of the Community
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I did some rubbing with a toothpick and it's definitely not a Cud as I previously thought it is getting a acetone bath again and will take new photos in a few hours maybe a fold over rim but will post new pictures in a few hours.
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Pillar of the Community
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How disappointing but none the less the area in question is not raised but incused you can see the tops of the devices on the R and B and L and P not so much on the E I can only conclude this is some form of PMD nothing I can think of would have caused this in the minting process 
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Pillar of the Community
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LOL I had to check the calendar. It's not April Fool's Day right?
Edited by Tacc 12/24/2023 2:21 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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No not April Fool's Day I'm sorry to say had to turn it just right in the light and could see that it was incusde also could feel it with the toothpick
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