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1798 Draped Bust Likely Fake?

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 Posted 12/28/2023  7:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JustinH to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I believe this dollar to be a fake but would like some other opinions. This was given to me so I'm not worried about it being fake.

So far it pings like silver, passes the ice cube test, is not magnetic and it weighs 26.63 grams.


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 Posted 12/28/2023  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burfle23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definite fake: reverse is wrong for the date and common on a family of these with different dates. These continue to show up in all venues.

My Coin Week article: https://coinweek.com/struck-counter...ust-dollars/

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12/28/2023 7:42 pm
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 Posted 12/28/2023  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, fake for sure.
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 Posted 12/28/2023  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed, definitely fake.
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 Posted 12/29/2023  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Along with your other tests you can try the tissue test as well, but as noted looks fake.
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 Posted 12/29/2023  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obvious fake.
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 Posted 01/01/2024  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goldendreams to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it was good at first, but the date gave it away. A better fake for sure.
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There's a $60 version on the sleaze site that advertises as 90% silver. If true, you wouldn't be able to decide based on ping, tissue or weight tests.
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 Posted 01/05/2024  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excuse me, but what is the "ice cube test"?
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01/05/2024 4:18 pm
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From APMEX: "Ice Cube Test: This test is popularly recommended online but is unreliable in practice. The ice cube test requires placing an ice cube on a silver product and examining how fast it melts. Since silver is a highly conductive element, the ice cube should melt quickly on a pure silver product. Many factors could interfere with this test or accelerate the results. The silver could be warm from being held in one's hands or positioned under a lamp, for instance. Unless you time how quickly an ice cube melts on something silver and compare that to an ice cube of the same size allowing it to melt on something other than silver, you cannot rely on this test. Without knowing how fast something melts on a .999 Fine bar or coin and comparing that against an item of .925, .900, .800, .500. .100 coin or bar, you cannot ascertain the silver item's purity. Given the number of variables to control in a test like this, we believe this test is unreliable for most silver bugs out there."
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The date on that "coin" is gross.

Does it have a lettered edge? If not that 110% confirms it's fake.
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