Cartwheel Twopence 1797

One of the very best I have seen.
Has sustained a tiny amount of wear on the high points, a long time ago, long since very attractively and evenly patinated over.
A few very tiny edge bumps.

There are most probably? some small hairlines and very tiny nicks that are so well hidden under the patina, that they would be difficult to find, even with a hand held examination, A 10x examination eyepiece loupe would be needed. Not possible to see in these reasonably good quality pictures.

These coins made of pure copper and are heavy, and thus are very subject to wear and edge bump bruising. This example has very little of either.

Scandinavian grade:- between
1+/01 and 01 (nearest would be EF in British grading system)

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Nice reflected 'M' !

No idea on grading, but that's a beautiful coin!

Thank you for your opinion!

Even though I'm Scandinavian I am more comfortable with the Sheldon scale since I mainly collect US coinage.

This is my first British coin. I've been interested in buying a large copper coin like the Swedish Christina 1 Öre for awhile but when this came up for sale I thought, why not? A one year type coin can never be wrong.

When I got it in hand my thought was AU58 (maybe even + for the PL fields) or MS with some weak strikespots. But like you said above, I've read that they often have rimdings so I wonder if it might get a detalj grade if sent in? I don't know if TPGs give minor rimdings a pass on this type of coin?

Also like you have said there ar some scratches under the toning in the fields. There are also some diepolishing lines on George III neck.

/denkan

Hello again. Just checked my bookshelf. To find out more about the history of this coin, and of the farthings, half pence, and pennies issued about the same time, I heartily recommend you read Sue Tungate's book "Matthew Boulton And The Soho Mint - Copper to Customer", and/or "Matthew Boulton And The Art of Making Money", edited by her and Richard Clay. Both are published by Brewin, in their non-fiction industrial history series. Well worth investigating. Enjoy!

Gorgeous coin! Looking very beautiful. I would say a GEF, a good extra fine in British grading system.

Proof to me has all the signs minute detail and everything is so sharp . I believe it is KT1a (early soho) K .: on shoulder fold 4 berries of roughly equal size . Reverse 2 rows of waves below Britannia Soho without stop.The wave crest on the extreme right points to the H of soho . Ship has an ensign and 2 ropes hanging below the bowspirit. Notes appear to suggest plain copper specimens also exist

Im not too familar with those Soho issues, but the extreme sharpness of the strike and the light mirrored fields make me think its a proof in the PR-58/60 range with lots of cabinet friction and rim nicks. If its a business strike its the best strike I have seen for a KGIII.

For the TPG, I'm fairly sure they wouldn't be too kind with it, proof or not, at least raw you get to handle it !