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1865 Ih RPD?

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 Posted 04/10/2009  11:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tomchad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This 1865 (fancy 5) is weak on the eight and five in the date and on the "C" in America. Am I correct in assuming this is a re-punched date? What would make the eight and the five so weak? Also, is there some kind of doubling on the feathers at the bottom of the head and some of the letters or is just normal for these cents?
If you look inside the loops of the six there is the vertical part and end curl of a five. There is also a light impression of a six which runs along the right side of the eight.
We all have read posts of people seeing "things" in coins and it's usually from staring at a coin too long. I hope I'm not writing one of "those" posts.



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Looks like a possible struck thru grease error which would account for the weak digits.
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I also agree, also the doubling on the feathers is just Mechanical Doubling of some kind, a very common thing, even today. ~ Jim
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 Posted 04/12/2009  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomchad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I originally saw was part of a five inside the six. At first I was a little puzzled by the responses then realized I had been staring at the coin for too long. So, taking a rose thorn I gently grazed the area and the shapes which looked like part of a five, but was actually buildup, and it lifted away. I wasn't sure if 19th century coins had effects like grease strikes or Machine Doubling, I am more familiar with 20th century coins. Clearly this coin has those effects on them. Thank you for the responses, and especially for your tact.

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 Posted 04/12/2009  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I wasn't sure if 19th century coins had effects like grease strikes or machine doubling


Minting technology is essentially unchanged from that era even today. In fact, Carson City Mint Press #1 (the machine which struck the very fist Carson City coin in 1870) was still in use minting official coinage, off and on, until 1964.

It's still producing medallions for the Nevada State Museum, located in the original Carson City Mint building, today.
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Don't toss it just yet! check the "6", to see if there might be some indications of a remnant due north. I believe you might have a 1,8,6n,5.
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Don't toss it just yet! check the "6", to see if there might be some indications of a remnant due north. I believe you might have a 1,8,6n,5. Clear the crud from inside the loop of the "6", and check both the upper part of the bottom loop, and inside the bottom, above the bottom-most part of the curve.
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