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Ifs Error Can This Be The Next BIE Error But On A Nickel 2018-P

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 Posted 01/11/2024  9:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add geno to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
ifs nickel error ikn its a die chip so is the bie
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Nice die chip!

Having looked at loads of modern nickels, the chip beside FS happens quite often. The idea of it being the new BIE is entertaining, though. Would it work with only two letters?

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Would it work with only two letters?


Yes I think that this is exactly what @geno is suggesting. The die chip is the letter I, and the FS are there already, so you've got an "IFS" error.
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Right, but aren't there variations of the BIE that happen between other letters of Liberty than BE? I haven't really spent much time on the Cuds, cracks, and fancy die chips topics yet. So I could very easily be wrong about that.
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Yes I have like 6 of these there pretty cool but yeah
Ifs nickel why not? your gonna start seeing them I believe more and it might catch on does anyone have any posted ?
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I'll call it the IFS Die Chip. Pretty neat.
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A few others have been found https://www.cointalk.com/threads/20...rors.320317/

This one I had linked was put up 3 years ago. See about 4 min 40 seconds in.
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Right, but aren't there variations of the BIE that happen between other letters of Liberty than BE? I haven't really spent much time on the Cuds, cracks, and fancy die chips topics yet. So I could very easily be wrong about that.


Yes. A "BIE" is a die break "chip" between the letters of LIBERTY on a Lincoln Cent. Most are becoming familiar with the 'BIE' variety to look for, but actually it depends on the location of the die break in the word liberty on the cent obverse as not all are found just between the B and E of liberty so PLENTY out there to look for.

Here is a reference list for you and others to help identify them and to see if one exists already.
https://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-bies/
https://cuds-on-coins.com/hardy-index-system/

Nickels you can also look here for the many doubled dies and varieties https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/
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Cool #128526; lol
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Thanks, datadragon.

IFS nickels? I guess if nickel BAR errors are now a thing, why not an IFS chip? =P
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Thanks, datadragon.

IFS nickels? I guess if nickel BAR errors are now a thing, why not an IFS chip? =P


IFS kind of makes sense for that one specific find as it does look like it added the letter I, like BIE also, but BIE on the cent happened to have others found also in the letters horizontally and on more than one year so that became a regular find to look for. Eventually some sell for added value or make a nice collection of things to look for. With this one as you can see the die chip can be higher like in the video one instead so more about looking for die chips in general.

Die Chips can get progressively larger as more and more coins are struck. This is the biggest one I've seen below so far on the 2021-p washington crossing the delaware quarter hat which sold for 16.27 to give you an idea for a modern coin. Generally they do not carry a large value since they can be common, most are small and its only ones that do something interesting to the design that typically sell. In other words the ones on the dimes for example were super common and most werent interested, but might make some fun collecting some.

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When its in just the right place, gets a nickname, or does something interesting to the design they seem to then have some popularity, demand, and added value possibly or at least interest for someone who might like to keep for a collection. This one I joked looked like a matrix plug in for example on a dime http://goccf.com/t/427674

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I've found quite a few FS initials die chips. When I restarted coin collecting earlier this year, I was finding quite a number of die chips. Finally, I just stopped because my little Ziploc bag was getting full. It's just a weak spot on the nickel reverse die.

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The Washington Crossing the Delaware "bird nest" in the hat seems popular, and also the leaky bucket quarter and snowy roof quarters. For size, I have seen quite a number of big beehive / hornet nest die chips on modern nickels on the side of Monticello.

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When that last one finally connects, the die chip will be huge (or it will fork a crack to the rim and retire the reverse die).
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I've found quite a few FS initials die chips


Nice example.


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When I restarted coin collecting earlier this year, I was finding quite a number of die chips. Finally, I just stopped because my little Ziploc bag was getting full. It's just a weak spot on the nickel reverse die.The Washington Crossing the Delaware "bird nest" in the hat seems popular, and also the leaky bucket quarter and snowy roof quarters. For size, I have seen quite a number of big beehive / hornet nest die chips on modern nickels on the side of Monticello.


Yes exactly...you have looked through a lot of nickels recently and they are common so if you actually take time to look you will find them especially these days as more people have loupes/microscopes/magnifiers to look for varieties and errors. However some people dismiss them entirely because they can be commonly found and so may not realize that some become popular with collectors, and therefore can have added value or at least the nicer ones can make a nice item for a collection. The more they do something interesting with the design such as the ones you mentioned, the more likely that will be, while just a few random small die chips that do nothing with the design like I see alot on the modern dimes don't seem to garner the same interest and eventually so many are found that thats why some may even generally call them worthless. If you think something is 'cool' most likely others may also.
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I tend to agree with how you analyzed the situation.

On one hand, certain die chips are quite common, particularly at physical weak points of the design. It's easy to take the attitude of, "Die chips? Bah! My refined sensibilities prefer the caviar of true doubled dies."

On the other hand, the repeatability, availability, and variety is exactly what made BIE Lincoln cents so popular. The BIE chip pattern appeared on numerous years in many shapes. For some time I was collecting hornets nests to study while waiting for a true doubled die or variety to show up in my nickel rolls. Eventually I also learned to enjoy the Class 8/9 lines-in-doors nickel DDRs. It's good fun and makes coin roll hunting more enjoyable.
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