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Hi All, Need some help identifying if these 2 Kennedy half dollars are TDO FS-101's or just damage. 2 decent examples and in decent shape. Not sure if these are worth getting graded but figured I would get some feedback from the community here! thanks again       *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. ****** Edited by Staff to clarify topic title. Please put as much info in the title as you can, they are very important. ***Edited by PaulyD
01/15/2024 10:27 am
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 The mint mark is PMD.Not worth slabbing. John1  |
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Thanks John1. PMD on both coins? |
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Last photo might be MD on the mint mark. John1 |
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I agree with John1.
Errers and Varietys.
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No extra value on either coin.
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I think you guys are looking at the wrong thing here. Doubled dies don't happen on hand punched mint marks. There appears to be slight doubling on the W in at least one picture there. Let's see a magnified picture of We Trust on both coins.  Edited by Brandmeister
01/15/2024 3:38 pm
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@Brandmeister...I'll try to get the photos you are asking for of both coins with "We Trust"
Thanks
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Are these images of one coin or 2? (I only ask because of the 2 MM images appear to be from 2 coins.)
As for the doubling, I may see some that Brand pointed out, but not too sure. most of the other images shoe circulation flattening and hits.
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http://www.varietyvista.com/12%20Ke...201968-D.htm That is definitely interesting. The rest of Trust is flattened and somewhat worn, but that W has the traditional serif splitting. There are a number of doubled Kennedy hubs running around during the late 60s—as Silviosi and others have discussed—but that coin is worth investigating as one of the three listed DDOs. Unfortunately, VV doesn't markers for most of those coins.
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@Dearborn.these are 2coins.
The exact order from the original pics at the top of the post.
Thank you
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Brandmeister, Quote:
Doubled dies don't happen on hand punched mint marks Please elaborate. John1 |
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John1, what I think Brandmeister was trying to explain is that any apparent doubling of the MM is usually a RPM. As the MM is hand punched on the die, it is not a result of hub doubling.
However, a doubled die can have a RPM, which serves as an excellent marker on a doubled die.
I think that was the intended point. Could be wrong though.
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Dowhat is correct in his interpretation of my post. Hub doubling (HDO/HDR/SDO/SDR) and die doubling ( DDO / DDR/TDO/TDR/QDO/QDR) are separate from mint mark doubling from repunched mint marks (RPM). In the pre-1990s era when mint marks were punched by hand into the die, that was done as a final step, after the die hubbing was complete. At the point when the mint mark was added, the die was already either doubled or not, completely independent of the mint mark getting manually hammered into the die surface. The original post is asking if the coins in question are tripled die obverse coins. But the focus of the discussion became the mint marks. The mint marks have no bearing on the TDO diagnosis. The conclusion that the coins were nothing interesting based on the mint marks is, in my opinion, the wrong conclusion. The second coin—and possibly the first coin—show a degree of genuine doubling on the W and possibly other letters. Whether that doubling is the more common (and less valuable) hub or series doubling, versus more a more valuable minor or major doubled die, should be carefully analyzed. |
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