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195? Lincoln Wheat Cent Defective Planchet?

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This cent looks like it has fissures to me. LWC diameter is normal with the exception of the weight = 2.56g and the thickness = .05". Any insight would be delightful. Thank you very much!

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The bits on the front look like a lamination, but I wonder what is going on on that rev.
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Might be a Lamination on the obverse. The weakness on the obverse and reverse could indicate a Tapered Planchet error. On the reverse, those "holes" might be damage. https://www.error-ref.com/tapered-planchets/
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Thanks for the feedback.

A couple of clarifications. The thickness is consistent within .003". The "holes" look like the start under the surface and propagate out. Also they have a slight overhang.
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Because of the obverse, I was originally thinking lam but am wondering if this coin spent some time in the ground.
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Bigstepper,
Need to work on posting better photos. The better the pics you post the better we can help you.
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John1,

Is it the resolution, angle, image size?
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No offense makecents but that is not a dirt coin. I've pulled a lot of LWCs from below and to me, there are no indications given the photos.
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@Bigstepper: that angle shots really don't help at all (unless you are trying to show the edge)
If you are trying to get an edge on image then it would be better to get it 'square on' and a bit closer.
We need images that are taken from directly above with good lighting and focus.
Also larger images will greatly help us see your coin better. (I usually make mine to be at 600 pixels square.)
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Now onto the coin - I'm going to go with a lamination on both sides.
Seeing how they are in a straight line, I think that the alloy mixture was not fully homogenized when it was extruded into the large flat copper plated .
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What Dearborn said.
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These are the same images with a larger file size. I used the email trick. Does this look better or no improvement? Tryingto figure this out. Does it look like a pre Cud on the reverse?
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I still say that the large 'divots on the reverse are laminations, just like the one on the obverse.

Notice how they are at the same angle on both sides.
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Thanks Dearborn. What are your thoughts on the reverse on the other wheat stall? Does it look like a Cud? The overall planchet is thin and light so it could be a side effect of a .05" thin planchet.
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