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1984 $1 Mor - Upset?

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This 1984 $1 MOR looked a little bit unusual when I turned it over. I put felt pen marks at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock and then extended them onto the reverse. It resulted in a 10 degree 'upset' - only one I have found for the 1984 coin.
I think the "standard" for any upset is 30 degrees or more - is that right?
Are these less than 30 degree 'upsets' a common occurrence? Just wondering whether to keep it in my "unusual collection" or boot it back into circulation.
1984-$1-Mor---Upset?
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That's pretty cool, SallyG! Were it mine, I would keep it even though it does not have great numismatic value - the cost of ownership is low.
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It's slightly rotated. In my opinion, I would put it back in circulation. It's up to you though.
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I think I would spend it. I also would not be putting line-up marks on coins.https://www.ebay.com/itm/284584845572
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Spender for me as well.
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Thanks for the feedback. Its not a valuable coin so I wasn't worried about marking it - they'll wash off anyway. I just wanted to confirm that it was actually upset. I have noodled through over 250k $1 coins and it is the first upset I have noticed. I have a 2001 Fed upset that is virtually 180 degrees out of whack which is pretty cool but I have not heard of any $1 MOR upsets. I think I will add it to my "odds and sods" collection.
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. I have noodled through over 250k $1 coins

Which $1 coin are you hoping to find? Have you found a 2021 MOR?
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I have found one 2021 $1 MOR coin so far. I keep an eye out for anything out of the ordinary - die chips/cuds, NCLT or upsets. That 1984 is the only MOR upset that I have seen or heard of. I just wondered if anyone else knew of any other upset $1 coins other than the 2001 Federation coins.
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That 1984 is the only MOR upset that I have seen or heard of. I just wondered if anyone else knew of any other upset $1 coins other than the 2001 Federation coins.

'If one side of the coin is only rotated a small amount, up to say 15 deg (or 1 o'clock) it won't be considered an upset. This angle may be considered normal as there is a small allowance (tolerance) for slight angle movement in the struck coin.' https://www.australian-coins.com/er...riety-error/

'This is a list of known (or rumoured) upset decimal coins which is being maintained by an Australian Coin Forum member.' http://wiki.australian-coins.net/wi...imal-upsets/

$1 1985 MoR (Confirmed)
$1 1996 Parkes @ 320°, 330°, 340° (Confirmed)
$1 1999 International Year of the Older Person @ Various (Confirmed)
$1 2001 COF Various degrees (Confirmed)
$1 2002 Outback @ 30° (Unconfirmed)
$1 2005 MoR @ approx 23° (Confirmed)
$1 2006 MoR @ 16° (Confirmed)

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Hi Coaster, thanks for that info. I will add those notes to my list of things to look for while noodling. I wonder what my chances are of finding any of them are? So far I have noodled through at least 250,000 $1 coins and found one 2001 Fed upset and that 1984 MOR (albeit not technically an upset). Not holding out much hope but the hunt will continue.
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'If one side of the coin is only rotated a small amount, up to say 15 deg (or 1 o'clock) it won't be considered an upset. This angle may be considered normal as there is a small allowance (tolerance) for slight angle movement in the struck coin.' https://www.australian-coins.com/er...riety-error/

Who made that definitive ruling? The Purple Penny People?
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