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What Kind Of PMD Is This? - 2022 Canadian Nickel Turned Blackish

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 Posted 01/23/2024  5:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinh3ad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey everyone, I found a nickel that had a strange kind of post mint damage, causing it to darken. I was wondering if anyone knows what environmental factors cause a color change of this type. Was it put in a fire, buried, exposed to grease, or did someone take a black marker to it?

What-Kind-Of-PMD-Is-This?---2022-Canadian-Nickel-Turned-Blackish

What-Kind-Of-PMD-Is-This?---2022-Canadian-Nickel-Turned-Blackish

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 Posted 01/23/2024  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Was it put in a fire, buried, exposed to grease, or did someone take a black marker to it?

Any of those could cause a coin to turn black. A soak in acetone would remove the black if it were from marker ink, or soil, or grease that was causing the colour change.

Coins can also turn dark if left in a chlorinated pool or fountain.

Ultimately, it's always tricky to say with confidence exactly what caused post-mint damage on a specific coin. We weren't there to watch it happen. Being able to replicate the damage on another coin by some technique is not necessarily proof that that technique is what caused the damage, since (as in this case) similar damage can arise from multiple possible causes.
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 Posted 01/23/2024  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That pretty much covers it!



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Thank you for the insight and the welcomes! That is the best way to think about the situation, we weren't there and there is no need to speculate when there are so many other cool coins to look at.
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 Posted 01/23/2024  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Environmental Damage of some sort. PMD. Not sure what caused it, but it's damage.
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It might be a legit planchet error.

http://goccf.com/t/242098&whichpage...hTerms=black

The planchet was heated - but before the strike. Some time ago I spoke to the manager of the plating plant at the Winnipeg mint, and these happen because planchets get struck in the large dryers after the plating baths. After several to many drying cycles, they turn darker, then they get unstuck and are struck like a normal coin.
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 Posted 01/26/2024  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SPP, I'm glad that you got to the crux of the "blackening" problem and, from a mechanical engineering standpoint, really makes sense. Thanks
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I was going to say it's a plating error of sorts.
I have observed this before.
Thanks SPP-Ottawa for sharing your knowledge!
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