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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day,
with all due resprect to Triton & Wwhitman, the 1937 crown has indeed been faked.
I have one - see my previous post on this thread.
Mine is very well-struck, but only 19 grams, and magnetic.
Why do counterfeiters go to the trouble of making a 1937, instead of 1938 ?
I don't know, but this quote from Tom CLANCY seems appropriate here:
"The difference between reality and fiction? ... Fiction has to make sense."
Peter in Oz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Habbyboo, I have to abandon my position to the expertise of Mr. Thomas. Have you checked the weight yet or seen if it is magnetic?  Did ya pay much for it? or can it be returned? |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Peter isn't saying this one is fake, he is saying that there are 1937 fakes. I have seen fakes myself. I still tend to believe this one is real until a weight or magnetic test is given to prove otherwise.
Whereas we might think it is not worthwhile to counterfeit a 1937 now, in 1937 it was probably worth it to do so.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't understand why no one believes there is profit to be made in making modern counterfeits of a common coin. To the contrary, I think that it would be easier to unload the common date. People would be less suspicious, which would allow the coins to sell at a brisker pace. Check out this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/5x-Australia-19...ns_W0QQitemZ170329829832QQihZ007QQcategoryZ39399QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I'm not saying these coins are fake, but this auction shows that you can make a quick $100+ with only pictures of the reverse and less-than-perfect coins. As far as the coin that started this thread goes, I would not be tempted to buy it based on the available pictures. There are just too many questionable areas that raise my doubts. Is it possible to get a picture of the reeding and any irregularities there may be on the coin's edge? |
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Australia
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I just purchase five 1937 crowns on ebay (price looked right; $186.05 with registered post). One of them is unnaturally shiny -really mirror finish! It is correct size and weight and looks correct (as far as I can see) in all details. It is not magnetic but does not look like natural silver colour. My first thoughts were; - counterfeit?
- polished? Only tiniest of scratches visible through magnifier and they look basically random.
- Plated?
Your thoughts requested. Is there a set of guideline on what to look for with counterfeit crowns; a quick search didn't turn anything up. Scans of the coin in question (and the original listing photos) follow. Thanks, Jeff PS. They all came up looking rather nice with a soak in warm water (drop of soft detergent) and then a swab with acetone.     |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Well I have been here a while and never stumbled across this topic before, they do indeed make fake 38 crowns, china man does. Here are pics of his work. I don't have enough crowns to know much about them and I don't own a 38 at all. But china man usually makes tell tale signs that coins are copys like thinning the date.   |
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Valued Member
Australia
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Your thoughts requested.
Is there a set of guideline on what to look for with counterfeit crowns They all look fine. Probably all have had a wipe with a jewlers cloth or micro fibre cloth. The 9 in the date is always the wrong font in the Chinese copies. Dud on left.  |
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Valued Member
Australia
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Hi Jeff I found this on youtube from one of our American cousins. He outlines how to avoid getting stung when buying American silver coins but the principle is the same. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o4uoUO7gxgTo avoid getting stung by Chinese rip offs.  1. Do your homework, know the weight of the silver coin you are buying. 2. Weigh the coin. 3. Ping test (not so sure about this as it could damage the coin). 4. Test with a magnet, if it's magnetic it's a fake. 5. Check coin under magnification for irregularities, e.g. pitting, gaps in coverage in the case of silver coating. 6. Don't trust the seller, check 2,4 and 5 yourself at the very least. Hope this helps.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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All 3 of the coins in your links are FAKES IMO Australian Coin.
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Valued Member
Australia
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Australian Coin , I agree with appleangle all 3 links are of fake crowns
1938 crowns genuine should have a weight of 28.27g the better chinese fakes are .... 26.8g
Diameter of genuine 38.50mm ....fake 38.00mm
thickness of genuine 2.90mm .....fake 4mm
i have also notice in the fake crown's design, just above the 8 in the date there's knock in the base line of the crown.
As for the 1937 crown in the OP only way to be sure is to weigh it , they did and do make plenty of fake 37 's too
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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