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1993 Lincoln Penny With Strange Doubling Obverse And Reverse

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 Posted 02/04/2024  11:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TedError to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please take a look at this 1993 Lincoln Penny with strange doubling pretty much everywhere, around the date, words, lincoln and building. Probably that dreaded MD and DDD, but I still love these types of coins. I haven't seen one like this before. Please provide your thoughts/comments. Thanks.
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 Posted 02/04/2024  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good pictures, just Die Deterioration Doubling. No added value.
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 Posted 02/04/2024  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed. It's a good example of Die Deterioration Doubling.
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 Posted 02/05/2024  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's a platting error. Some are calling it, "Plating Disturbance Doubling" or "Disturbed Plating Doubling".

Basically the copper patting is thin enough to bubble.
I wonder if it's a progression of thinner and thinner platting from this, which is thin enough to bubble, to an even thinner plate which splits and bubbles?

There's a nice description on Errorsref.com and in a Mike Diamond CoinWorld article

https://www.error-ref.com/other-forms-of-doubling/

https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...plating.html

From the 2011 article,
"Puffy, raised doubling extends in a radial fashion from the normal raised design elements on the faces of both sides."

"These final three examples with raised doubling show no evidence of a double strike. They're clearly not doubled dies. Nor do they represent a Type II counterclash (a form of die damage). The doubling doesn't seem to be related to Die Deterioration since none of the coins show evidence of a late die state or any other signs of Die Deterioration.

The only possibility remaining is some form of disturbance in the copper plating. The areas that show this raised doubling are the same areas that often display split-line doubling. The copper plating is highly stressed during the strike, especially at the borders of raised design elements. Tensile stresses, compressive stresses, friction and heat all assault the thin copper plating. This could conceivably cause the copper plating to lift up from the underlying zinc or otherwise alter its appearance.

I think the name "disturbed plating doubling" or "plating disturbance doubling" would be an appropriate moniker for this phenomenon."
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02/05/2024 03:50 am
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 Posted 02/05/2024  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you're correct, CentR. It sure looks like it. I've should of done my research before submitting my reply.
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 Posted 02/05/2024  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with CentR and would keep it in a 2x2.
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 Posted 02/05/2024  06:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have anything to add about the coin, but did want to compliment you on taking really nice close-up images @ted. Well done!
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 Posted 02/05/2024  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TedError,
What is your photo set-up?
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 Posted 02/05/2024  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was great research that you did and I did learn something new from it. Thank you. Your effort has been well recognized.
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 Posted 02/05/2024  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@CentR's comments are most informative.
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 Posted 02/05/2024  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TedError to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@CentR - Thanks so much for that information. When I looked at this coin I wanted it to be something other than MD and DDD because it is a coin that I love and was going to keep no matter what doubling. To me it looks like Lincoln on the Obverse and the Building on Reverse were dropped in thick mud or melted metal and a small splash occurred around the edges. The coin itself is in very fine condition so I may send it off to get graded. Thanks for all of the comments.

@John1 - I took the full coin photos with my iphone. The close up pictures were taken from my Moysuwe microscope which is connected to my laptop. I had to play with the lighting on each of the close ups to get the full definition of the error.
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"Plating Disturbance Doubling"
That's a new term to add to my list!
..and this coin is a fine example of PDP.

Note: when & if those areas of extreme bubbling do break open, then it would become
"Split Plating" ?
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The plating splits during strike.See the gray areas by the letters.http://goccf.com/t/357614 The OPs coin is not split copper plating.
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 Posted 02/05/2024  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok thanks for clarification John.
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