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Help On This Jefferson Requested {weak Obv. / Strong Rev.}

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 Posted 04/13/2009  9:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this Jefferson in circulation and could use some help. The obverse is missing a lot of the detail, (weakly struck, grease filled, etc...?) but the reverse is nice and strong. Could not make the date m/m on this one either.

Any ideas?


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I recently found something similar to this on a Lincoln Cent. I was told its called a capped die error. This happens when the coin somehow sticks to the die, and continues to strike more coins. I don't really know if this is a capped die error. This is what my coin looks like.

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I think it is pretty safe to say that this isn't a capped die strike. It doesn't have the distorted image on the obverse that this type of error will cause. This could possibly be a die testing piece, or simply an overpolished die. I am leaning toward the overpolished die, as I believe that a die test piece would exhibit a soft strike on both sides. But I will divert to the experts, who are probably all sleeping right now! Looking forward to hearing what they have to say.
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The rim appears full struck,so I am going to say Grease Filled Die.
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I'll have to agree with John1 on this, it's impossible to get a weak strike on one side of a coin without some kind of interference like oil or grease filling the die. ~ Jim
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I have to go with filled die as well and definitely a nice one, too much detail missing to be overpolishing/abrading. Dramatic contrast between the two sides makes this one a keeper

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I believe that a die test piece would exhibit a soft strike on both sides

Yes, and the best diagnostic with a test strike is extreme weakness of the rim. If a coin has strong rims but weak design then it is usually attributable to overpolished or filled dies.
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It's a grease strike through. Not a capped die because it lacks the distortion that would be seen even with a very late stage cap. It isn't a weak stike of "set up" piece because if it was both sides would be weak. And it isn't an overpolished die because it is the high points or the DEEP areas of the die details that are missing. On an overpolished die the high point details will still be there and the shallow design detail will be missing.
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 Posted 04/18/2009  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Back Off Boogaloo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Struck Thru Grease is what I will say.
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