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Pillar of the Community
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  I have no idea of what full steps means. Looks very similar to photos on the PCGS website?
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't know if it's full steps or not, but it looks pretty close from what I can see.
Nice coin, even if it isn't full steps!
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Pillar of the Community
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6451 Posts |
I think it might go 5 full steps, even with the knock across multiple steps. The lines still seem to be present. The 6th bottom line looks very incomplete.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've completely given up offering opinions on full steps. Basically, I have no idea anymore. Not sure the TPG's do either. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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10472 Posts |
Nice looking nickel - easy 65. EDIT: Heck with FS - I give up too!  Edited by Marv65
02/21/2024 10:50 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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10472 Posts |
Like Coinfrog says - who knows anymore. I don't know if this will help or not.......... This about a 1969 nickel but I posted it mainly for the diagram.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
73595 Posts |
I'll say MS-64. As far as Full Steps goes, I am not sure anymore.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Hard to see the bottom step, add light and zoom in on them.
All I see is some strike weakness, obvious in the hair and building. Hardly a hit on it. 65
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice looking nickel.  Your photo does not show the bottom step well enough to judge. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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18630 Posts |
a rare nickel post for you i think the small ticks on the jawline are die related. seen them before. not sure if thats a scuff on obv right field. could be lighting MS64 possible 65 as for steps. TPG's don't even follow their own guidelines. I can post dozens of examples that have hits across the steps that pull the designation. I think they are more concerned with each step is fully defined more so than any hits on them. the bottom step only comes into play for 6FS, i'd call it 5FS |
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Quote:Full Steps (FS) is the designation following the numerical grade of some regular-strike MS60 or higher Jefferson nickels that have at least five separated steps (lines) at the base of Moniticello. Any major disturbance or interruption of these steps or lines, whether caused by contact, planchet problems, or another source, will result in the coin's not being designated FS. Only the slightest weakness on any step (line) is allowed for this designation. Some issues are almost never seen with Full Steps and may command a significant premium. PCGS does not go on to explain the difference between 6FS and 5FS, but essentially it relates to the number of fully separated lines seen on the coin. The 6FS designation will have 5 distinct lines and the 5FS designation will have 4 distinct lines. Any coin without at least 4 fully separated lines will not be awared the FS designation. It should also be noted that originally NGC did not award the FS designation to 5FS Jefferson's until February 16th, 2004. Before that date, NGC only used the FS designation for coins that showed 6FS. After that date they used two different designations, one for 6FS and 5FS. A coin in an older NGC holder with the FS designation equals 6FS. To my knowledge, PCGS always considered 5 or 6 full steps FS. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks MS-65 but not one I would buy as FS.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Chase007. I challenge you to look at some 5FS slabbed coins. half of them will showTPG's don't go by their own guidelines and thus the confusion. heres two examples. you tell me. you can find tons like this this one is NGC MS65FS  this one is PCGS MS66FS  |
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Pillar of the Community
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As stated, TPG's seem to not follow their own criteria in many cases. I would not purchase either one of the two examples above as FS. Just because it is in a slab that carries that designation doesn't make it so. It is up to us, the scrutinizing collector to determine what is and is not FS based upon the written criteria and reject those examples that violate the written criteria. When enough of us in the marketplace refuse to purchase coins that don't make the mark, perhaps the TPG's will change the way they interpret the FS designation. |
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Pillar of the Community
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The FS debacle comes up a lot. Literally the first coin in the PGCS lineup for 1942-D 5c FS is questionable.  It's not so terrible for this year—a 1942-D full steps nickel is about 2x the price of a comparable grade 1942-D nickel—but for some years it's a 50x price difference with the same questionable application of full steps standards. |
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Posted 02/21/2024 9:12 pm
