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Help Getting Rid Of The Mud?

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 Posted 02/22/2024  3:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add LarryjrK to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Looking for advice on how to get the mud and other gunk off this coin without effecting the gorgeous green patina.

This site is great and you guys are the best.

Thanks for your help.
Larry

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Read BadThads post: http://goccf.com/t/57008#447106
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The "gorgeous green patina' is vertigris and is slowly eating your coin away, as it is a chemical reaction, usually caused by PVC from album pages or holders. Acetone will remove the green "haze", but the hard, solid spots will have coin damage to the alloy underneath. If you clean the coin, you will have a surface with pits and scars, as a result of the corrosion to the copper/tin alloy. You have a nice '59 and, if you give it a quick dip in acetone, it may clear up a bit, but you'll have corrosion if you try to remove everything. Do an archive search on here for vertigris and/or acetone. Vicky large cents often show up with vertigris and it usually is a visual ID of a future slow death of the coin.
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 Posted 02/22/2024  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me...your cent looks like its been dug up from metal detecting.

You may get the results you want by a simple soak in warm hydrogen peroxide and then seal with Renaissance wax.
It's been my observation than most dug coins are only appreciated by those who dig them up and their kind...I like it on certain coins and call it patina and not necessarily the slow death of a coin
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Thoughts on reverse electrolysis?
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Electrolysis is generally regarded as a "technique of last resort", as it tends to be quite disruptive of the coin's surface.
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Candidate for Verdi-care, I think.
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So I decided to reverse electrolysis the coin as I do have a lot of experience with rust removal. No scrubbing, no brushing, no rubbing dry.

Why does my 59 not look copper?

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Well, the coin is bronze and the alloy many times gets very yellow/pale depending upon what chemically it came into contact with. 1859's like you have now look like they've been bleached, which may be like reverse electrolysis that you did or maybe the tin in the alloy made it look that way..
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I heard that SPP-Ottawa does testing? I hope he reaches out to me.
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You need to turn on your email here on CCF and I think you need to have 50 posts.
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SPP probably won't contact you, but you may be able to reach out to him. He did all the XRF's for the reasearch paper and corelated the data, with Jaime assisting in gathering all the coins, Rob writing most of the words, and me furnishing coins and comments. Don't be let down if and when the XRF says "no". See what I mean about the coin surface when the green patina is removed?
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After a short soak in acetone the color is amazing. Not too Shiney, not too dull. This thing looks.amazing and with out a single scrub or abrasive material or product.

Wow..

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