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For Grading - 1943 S Mercury Dime

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 Posted 02/26/2024  8:27 pm Show Profile   Check HumblePie's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add HumblePie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would like to hear some grading opinions on this Merc. The luster is amazing, busy and bouncy. The bands look like they took a cruel hit. Trumpet tail mint mark FS-511. I hope these photos are okay to grade by. Thanks for all opinions!


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 Posted 02/26/2024  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnhenry9009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say MS-65, maybe FB on a great day, on a bad day MS-63 and no FB
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I'll say MS-65 FB, beautiful coin.
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I'm with MS-65 but I wonder if that little hit on the center bands would disqualify it from FSB. Overall it is a very minor impairment but I don't know how strict the TPG's are with that designation. By PCGS standards there may be no interruptions, including marks, gouges, nicks or other surface imperfections involving the central bands. Here is a link from PCGS. https://www.pcgs.com/news/what-are-...ercury-dimes
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Extra fluffy--MS65+ for me.
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This is not FB.
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65 no FSB but it's beautiful.
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MS-65. Very nice Mercury dime!
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I'm with MS65, no FSB.
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I would say MS66, I don't think FSB. Great luster.
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I am at MS-66 FB
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I agree with MS-65. But it's very gemmy compared to other TrueView examples, so it could go higher. It's a real beauty of a Mercury dime.

That little bang on the middle bands is unfortunate. I think it would be a dice roll at the TPGs. Cheerful grader: FB. Strict grader (including 99% of CCF members): not FB.
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Looks MS-65FSB to me.
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To quote PCGS:


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The Full Bands designation is granted to Mercury dimes in which the central (middle) set of bands shows a complete split in the middle.


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Full Bands designations are bestowed only to Mercury dimes that grade MS60 or better and exhibit a complete separation of the central crossband on the reverse of the coin.


From NGC:


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To qualify for NGC's Full Bands (FB) designation, the two central bands (seen at the center of the coin) must show full separation (with a recessed area between them). The top and bottom groups of bands must also show separation.


The mark across the 2nd band hinders "full separation" or "complete separation." Yes, it's a dice roll - sometimes coins "sneak in" to FB holders that are not technically qualified as FB.

Bottom line, there's no downside to getting this coin slabbed, and a lot of upside if you can sneak it into a FB holder. It's beautiful either way and deserves to be protected.
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I think we all could agree that if that hit was not on the middle band that this coin would have FSB with no question, and nice FSB at that. The band cut seems nice and deep the whole way and looks to be a little stronger on the side that has the hit.

I read the PCGS page about FSB from the link provided. The next part quoted is from that page.

"Why is this worth noting? The Full Bands detail is indicative of a sharp strike, which on many Mercury dimes is quite scarce and is often highly rare. This is especially true with early branch mint strikes, though there are plenty of later dates from Philadelphia that are all but elusive with Full Bands details, such as the 1945 Philadelphia Mercury dime with Full Bands. And because a Mercury dime possessing these complete details are generally scarce, many collectors are willing to pay a substantial premium for them over examples with characteristically softer strikes."

I wonder if the TPG feels it more important to label a holder FSB because it is - "The Full Bands detail is indicative of a sharp strike" - as long as they feel for sure the coin had FSB before the minor hit? Maybe the coin having FSB before a small hit is more important than knocking a coin from having FSB because of a small hit.

That is just a thought. We all do see plenty of NGC and PCGS holders with FSB and a small hit that makes us wonder.

I'm just putting out my 2cents worth, I was in camp no FSB when I bought the coin, but I'm not good at this stuff to begin with.
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PCGS: Full Bands designations are bestowed only to Mercury dimes that grade MS60 or better and exhibit a complete separation of the central crossband on the reverse of the coin.

Well, if PCGS really said that, they sure like to contradict themselves...

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