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1889-CC Morgan For Grading

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This one is in an ICG slab. Seller's photos. What grade would you guess for this one?

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I am at VF35. It may have wear that could get it to XF 40, but not seeing any protected luster around the letters.
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I would guess it's right at the VF/XF line as well.
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Obverse seems VF35 - reverse can't really tell accurately.
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Lousy pics - I'll say VF-35.
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going to say XF-40
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VF-35 for me
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I'm at VF30. The Reverse may be VF/XF (it's a bit blurry), but with all the surface blemishes and the wear in the hair, cotton leaves and blossoms, it's hard for me to go any higher. If the Reverse ends up being a solid XF, I might be able to get to VF35.
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Pretty beat but VF35 and it looks relatively original which is a nice bonus.
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XF details cleaned
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I'll say VF.
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I'm going to push it over the line to XF40
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I'd say VF-35.
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Does anyone other than NS think this one was cleaned at some point?
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It's always possible when looking at 100+ year old coins that someone, somewhere cleaned it; in this case, I see dirty/dark original toning commensurate with the amount of wear expected of a high VF-low XF coin.

Since that's the case, what I focus on when evaluating classic coins is whether or not any cleaning that might have been done is 1) immediately obvious, 2) noticeably damaged the coin's surfaces, 3) is widely inconsistent with surface wear, or 4) substantially affects eye appeal (e.g. unnatural color, staining, "dip job" luster patterns, etc.)

I don't think this coin meets any of those criteria for me, so I would expect it to straight grade.
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paralyse, I had this one as cleaned. The dirty/dark original toning is inconsistent on the obverse, but the reverse looks normal. The details in the center of the coin, Liberty's hair, cap folds, part of LIBERTY on the band are all clean with no dirt, grime or toning.
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