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United States
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Good afternoon everyone. This is actually a second attempt at asking for a grading sanity check based on some of the comments from the original post. I took new photos and opened the case that the coin was stored in (note - that's what you'll see in the background as I used the case to maneuver the coin so I didn't touch them without gloves). I'd welcome thoughts on both the grade as well as the photos. Thanks again!  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1143 Posts |
MS-63 based on contact marks on the cheek.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19178 Posts |
Nice coin. I could see MS64.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
74497 Posts |
I'll say MS-63.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36800 Posts |
With the photo lighting being so bright, I think only the largest marks are showing up. MS-63
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Bedrock of the Community
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18681 Posts |
good job on the new photos blackjak it appears that the original luster is gone on this one. typically we this on over dipped coins. there are two possible grades here. AU58 slider and MS61. ive seen several MS61 grades on coins that were over dipped rather than give it a details designation compare the luster here with any MS63 coin and you'll see what I mean heres an example of an MS61 graded by ANACS that look very similar to this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/2961311916...9SR6ba0-LAYw
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sorry, don't like these pics. Pale and washed-out.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2003 Posts |
I know how hard it is for many of us (myself included) to get crisp accurate photos of coins. With uncirculated coins it is often difficult to capture cartwheel luster After viewing both your 78s and 79s coins, they both appear to not have any original luster and I would have to concur with Panzaldi that they are likely over dipped. You have the coins in hand. Can you tilt them back and forth under a light and see any cartwheel effect in the fields or is luster present only on the highest devices?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
As I understand it, this coin has been the subject of two different threads, and reviewing the grading comments (which are all over the map), I confess to having no idea at all.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1298 Posts |
Again, I'm in the panzaldi camp.
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Bedrock of the Community
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18681 Posts |
i think these photos are sharp enough and without glare thats its pretty easy to see the surfaces as they look in hand. the original surfaces have been removed. there is only one way to get this over dull look on an high AU low MS coin and thats to over dip it.
the coin is fairly clean when it comes to marks however any of the big houses would not grade this coin MS63 or better without original surfaces. based on all the original assessments one can see now why those photos were insufficient to grade by. blackjak did a great job retaking the new ones to allow for a proper assessment.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
63 full grade
Your original photos were better.
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Edited by paralyse 03/04/2024 08:39 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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64
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2282 Posts |
This Coin lacks eye appeal and has Luster issues.
With these photos there's zero chance it grades 63 or higher.
Au-61 slider
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Pillar of the Community
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MS-64, I don't think the pics are that bad. Don't see a lot of marks.
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