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Hello, CCF. So this very low grade example was given to me by my father in law. While I have no reason to doubt its authenticity, would like confirmation from the experts here. Diameter is spot on, weighs in a little lite at 26.12 grams but given its worn state, seems like that is probably acceptable. The obverse is ugly as pictured, reverse has a much more attractive even colored surface. Other than acetone, any suggestions for the obverse as it is really ugly. Otherwise, thoughts on grade, G4 maybe?     |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This looks like Bowers-Borckardt 27, Bolender 5. Appears authentic. Grade is VG8 details obverse stained imho.
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Why would the edge be so bold on a worn coin? John1  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Why would the edge be so bold on a worn coin? the edge of the coin is not rubbing as much against other coins or handling. VG details if you are planning on selling it, i'd consider slabbing it. if not get an airtite to protect it |
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NS, thanks for the confirmation and reference information.
Panzaldi, I don't have any plans to sell it, I was wondering though if PCGS conservation/restoration services would be of any benefit in making the obverse a little more attractive. Do you, or anyone else, have opinions on that one way or another?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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VG details.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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VG-8 details. Great coin even with the obverse stain. I'm thinking NGC's conservation service might help the eye appeal on this one.
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Pillar of the Community
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Almost looks like it was removed from jewelry. That obverse staining could be from heat that was used to melt what was holding the coin in place.
Still, a nice coin to own!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm not that well versed in conservation to state whether or not it would help. if I was going to have it slabbed I definitely would do that though
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, I think it's worth paying for a conservation effort on that stain.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Super nice in any condition and a great heirloom.
I'm in the "mount removed" camp. I think it's had solder removed, and the other attachment point was above LIB.
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I think the assessment that this is a former jewelry piece is correct. Taking a closer look, it does look like the pitting within the obverse stained area contains metal, presumably silver solder, of a slightly different composition relative to the coin's composition.
Thx for the feedback!
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin cannot be conserved .
The obverse looks like an acid test to confirm
Silver was performed . Any more fooling with this will only
make it look worse . Sorry but this is a rather ugly
DETAILS Coin.The stain and pitting kill it .
Also it is quite likely this piece has been repaired.
Looks rather odd in the centres .
Best advice don't give either PCGS or NGC a nickel
Of your hard earned money .
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03/12/2024 10:50 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Probably had a pin back soldered to it so it could be worn on a lapel. People have done funny things to coins for a long time.
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Bedrock of the Community
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interesting call on the pin and silver removal. never saw that one but looking at that stain there is pitting that does look like it could have been from some type of corrosive as the pitting is restricted to just the stain area
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Agree, I think it's worth paying for a conservation effort on that stain. I don't know Coinfrog, that sounds like you are condoning coin doctoring!!!!! The coin is pitted in the central obverse, with the discoloration bring from metal movement or fill. I think it would need a serious restorer to make a difference, which would make it not financially worth it. I can't see PCGS or NGC conservation services making a difference. They'll probably over-dip the coin and return it in a body bag. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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