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1858/7 Flying Eagle- My Second One

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Today I received an 1858 LL Flying Eagle from an ebay Auction for $48. The coin looked like it could potentially be an overdate from the ebay photos, so I bid on it. I just gave it the acetone/Verdi-Care treatment and I really like the results and it has all the overdate markings. What is interesting to me is that I have been looking for this update for over 10 years and now I have found two in less then a month. I guess the first is always the hardest!

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Remarkable.
Congrats on the second one as well.
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Awesome! Congratulations on your second one.
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Just to be sure, did you check to see if the specs are within a reasonable range of the standard 19 mm diameter and 4.7 g weight?

I'm a mouthy novice, so my observations are less than meaningless, as anyone that's seen my posts can attest. There's something about the fairly decent detail in some low points of the feathers that's near pretty decent wear on the high points that seems a bit abrupt to my untrained eye. It made me wonder if the wear marks on the other recent find are different or eerily similar? Hopefully I am way off as usual.
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The weight and diameter check out. The tail wear is normal for his variety. In addition, the weak right side of the reverse is also normal. Rick Snow discusses this in his book. The reverse die marker dots on the lower right side is also an indicator. PCGS indicates this as a variety detail. I have looked at all of my 1858 LL flying eagles and they do not have these two dots. Rick Snow told me that this probably was the result of a die pair specific to the overdate.
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Super cool find. Congratulations! Curious where you learned to find the reverse side marker?

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Actually, I found it on this forum when I was looking for a discussion of Attributes for this overdate. It is not mentioned in Rick Snow's book on Attributes. I emailed him with the attached picture below and this was his reply.
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All 1858/7's are High Leaves reverse. That die marker on the reverse die could be used as a die marker for that reverse die. It would be interesting to see if that reverse shows up on any other non-overdate coin.

So I got him thinking about it since he does not mention it as an attribute in his book.

At any rate I have only found it on overdate coins and not on regular 1858 LL's

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Cool, thanks. Was just interested since that was the original marker I pointed out on this forum! The photo you used was mine too! Glad to see others are using the knowledge. Will be cool if Snow ever gets around to fully recognizing it as a die marker for this variety. Again, awesome find!

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