Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics 300,000 items to help build your collection! Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Surprised This Barber Half Straight Graded At PCGS

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 22 / Views: 1,671Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
ericgreen's Avatar
United States
1509 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  09:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I won this PCGS F-12 Barber Half at an auction last week. The pictures made it look like a real nice coin. I was quite surprised when I received it to see a flat damaged spot on the edge. I don't get how PCGS could straight grade this with this damage.

Surprised-This-Barber-Half-Straight-Graded-At-PCGS
Surprised-This-Barber-Half-Straight-Graded-At-PCGS
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have a problem with that.
Valued Member
johnhenry9009's Avatar
United States
244 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnhenry9009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does not look unsightly or particularly noticeable in my opinion. But if you don't like it see if you can return it.
Pillar of the Community
ericgreen's Avatar
United States
1509 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It isn't horrible, but I am still surprised on the straight grade. Something happened to it long ago that was hard enough to displace the reeding to smooth out that area of the edge. I paid up a bit for this one, so I am going to be returning.
Pillar of the Community
jacrispies's Avatar
United States
3848 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good idea to return. That should have certainly detailed. I am thinking there was a major rim bump and the rims were filed down to make it smooth.
Suffering from bust half fever.
Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955
Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187702 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bummer.

When all is said and done, you need to be happy with the purchase.
Bedrock of the Community
paralyse's Avatar
United States
12057 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS allows a certain number of defects on classic coins based on the expected grade, but this is egregious.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890

"Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Picky, picky picky!
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Pacificoin's Avatar
Canada
5393 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with Frog.
Not seeing much to gripe about here!
That is rock solid for a FINE Barber Half
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is "egregious"?
Pillar of the Community
ericgreen's Avatar
United States
1509 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a rock solid Fine half, besides the edge flat/smooth/displaced area. I do think it is more noticeable in hand. If I were looking at this raw, I would have called it Fine Details, but I am in the hunt for very choice examples.
Moderator
Learn More...
Dearborn's Avatar
United States
95018 Posts
Pillar of the Community
United States
2281 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This Coin is fine. Way too picky here.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.

-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Valued Member
United States
202 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2024  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add apcol258 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's interesting how the placement of damage can determine if a coin is acceptable to one or not. I don't imagine as many would be so quick to say it was a non issue if the exact same filing (even half the size) had been done across the date or obverse portrait to cover up a gouge or dent.
Bedrock of the Community
paralyse's Avatar
United States
12057 Posts
 Posted 04/03/2024  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope PCGS hires more graders who are okay with a coin where the edge reeding has been completely filed off to conceal obvious damage not getting a details grade. I would just ask that when I send them all of my damaged coins, they should please make sure they get into straight grade holders.

I've got a wire wheel and a Dremel tool around here, I'll file off the edge reeding entirely and send it in and maybe they'll say it's a rare "missing reeding" error!
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890

"Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
Pillar of the Community
Everest's Avatar
Taiwan
606 Posts
 Posted 04/03/2024  01:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, PCGS missed this one. It appears to be an ex jewelry piece. When the mount is removed the reeding goes with it.
  Previous TopicReplies: 22 / Views: 1,671Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.36 seconds to rattle this change. Forums