1863 Indian Head Penny With Laurel Wreath, No Shield

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tp21 New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 04/09/2024 6:42 pm Hi all. I am new to the group from New Jersey. I have an 1863 Indian Head penny with a laurel wreath on the backside and no shield. I was under the understanding that the laurel wreath/ no shield was only minted in 1959. Any help would be appreciated. Report this Post to the Staff

Onedollarbillnut Pillar of the Community United States 745 Posts	Posted 04/09/2024 7:12 pm It's either a counterfeit or a novelty token Tim Hughes Report this Post to the Staff
mrwhatisit Pillar of the Community United States 2953 Posts	Posted 04/09/2024 7:21 pm Almost looks like a maverick civil war token (or CWT) made in the likeness of an Indian cent, since small change was getting scarce by the middle of the civil war, hence all those cwts made. Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 24947 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 05:11 am It looks similar to Civil War Token Fuld-87/356 a with "NOT" removed. That was a common practice with Civil War Tokens and earlier with Hard Times Tokens. Alternatively a different die could have been used for the reverse, as this was a quite common design. 1863 Indian Head / NOT ONE CENT. Fuld-87/356 a. Rarity-1. Copper. Plain Edge. AU-58 BN (NGC). https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...au-58-bn-ngc Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 08:49 am Some sort of crude token for sure. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 08:55 am to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94786 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 11:19 am agreed, not an Indian Head cent. yours has 'dots' on either side of the wreath that should not be there and the leaves are different and should not touch at the top center. and what is that thing on the reverse field under 'CENT'? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
tp21 New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 11:54 am Thanks for all these replies. All very interesting. Not sure what that thing is under CENT. Are these of any value? Report this Post to the Staff
apcol258 Valued Member United States 202 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 1:24 pm This looks like a match. As others noted the 'not' appears to have been removed from your token. https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...ms-65-bn-ngc Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94786 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 2:11 pm yup! Apcol - that is exactly right on the spot.. So that thin under CENT is a bird head (was the rest of the bird on someone's dinner plate?) Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Sharks Pillar of the Community Canada 1760 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 3:00 pm @tp21 Good info. apcol258. Edited by Sharks 04/10/2024 3:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Maine Member Valued Member United States 450 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 4:29 pm Fake or Token or Altered Fake Token. Agree with above comments. Report this Post to the Staff
tp21 New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 04/10/2024 10:23 pm Apcol, that link that you listed is spot on. If you zoom in closely on my coin, you can almost make out the O and the T in not. That has opened up a whole new realm of coins, previously unknown to me. Report this Post to the Staff
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