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1864 Indian Head Cent With Hole

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Just wondering how much a hole affects the price on old coins like this Indian Head cent.
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yep! That is a hole alright..

Holed coins like this kill the value on them.
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There are people who collect holed coins, but for most it ruins the value and collectability of the coin.
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It's a goner. Looks like it might even be an 1864-L.
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Holed coins like this kill the value on them.
Agreed. Plenty of these out there sans the punch through.
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I'm with Coinfrog about the variety with the "L" on the ribbon.

This "L" is sought after and will give it some value.
It's in pretty good shape.
I wouldn't be surprised if it sold In the $25-$40 range in ebay.
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Learn something new here every day.

Thanks for the info Coinfrog and Petespockets55.

I just went to pcgs and searched for "What does the l on Indian cents mean".

Nice one triggersmob!

Looks like it could possibly be the "L" on ribbon.
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Here's a better picture of the ribbon.
Indeed it might have an L.
Thanks for pointing that out, I had it my spreadsheet as no L.
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I didn't see that was from you Trig

A note on the L variety, the coin has a pointed bust verses a round bust on all other 1864 Indian cents. So if you see a pointed bust on a 1864, it is automatically the L on ribbon type

(That detail can allow easy cherrypicks from dealers who don't realize they have a more valuable variety...)
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Thanks Mrwhatisit. I guess I can't use this in 20Q now.

Here's the reverse, if anyone would like to give me a grading opinion.
I have it listed on my spreadsheet as VG10, but now I'm thinking F15 to VF20. The coin is a lot darker than it appears in my photos.
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I guess I can't use this in 20Q now

Sometime down the road I may well forget this

As to an estimated grade, I can put this at F-12 details (holed) at best on the obverse since Liberty is not fully defined, and maybe a tad higher to a F-15 for the reverse...
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Thanks Mrwhatisit, I will update my spreadsheet. Cheers
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I have an entire collection of holed FEC's and IHC's, 1857 FEC to 1909 S. Had fun doing it, took awhile.
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Nice to know someone out there likes them.
I have a few more with holes.

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