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1989 Penny With 1988 RDV-005 Reverse

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I found this 1989 Lincoln Cent with a 1988 RDV-005 reverse.
I sent it to PCGS and they said it is Genuine, Ungradable, due to questionable color. I didn't clean, dip it or anything to alter it's color or toning. This is the way I found it.
Do I have something valuable? Thanks. ErrorsRCool.
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Your reply was split into its own topic for the proper attention.
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What you need to find is the 1988 RDV-006 it has the 1989 FG

What you have is the normal 1989. https://www.coincommunity.com/numis...V&gsc.page=1
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You have a normal 1989 LMC. The reverse design is normal. You want to look for the 1988 RDV-006. You should have asked us first, before sending it in.
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Here's a picture of the 1989 slab, obverse and reverse.

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Hi John I. You made a comment on my post about the 1989 Lincoln Cent with the 1988 reverse error. These are pictures of the normal FG's for those two years. Mine is not a normal FG for 1989.
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Actually, it is the correct reverse for your 1989 LMC. What you are seeing is an area of the die that has been over polished. By that happening caused the devices to become smaller making the G appear not to have a serif. I have seen many of these and have had a few that I even questioned. But it is an over polishing issue.
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to the CCF That would be a lot of polishing. This is 005. They are out there. Check it out here. http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/index.html Transitional errors.
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As already stated, the OP's example is an over polished, normal, 89 reverse. The dead giveaway is the top and bottom of the G do not line up, it is definitely RDV-006 and normal.


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Thanks for the comparison images MakesCents.

They not only point out the how the top of the "G" ends in relation to the vertical bar of the "G", but the images also show how the "G" lines up with the end of the building.
The "G" extending past the building is what clearly shows the OP's coin is the RDV-006. Nothing affects that alignment.
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I've looked at the comparison pictures and I disagree because the RDV-006 has a smaller gap between the top of the G and the serif. The 006 also has a curved hook at the top and a more rounded stubbier look. If you notice closer, my example's G is tilted slightly to the left which makes it appear like the upright and top don't line up. The straight yellow line needs to be angled to match flatly against the upright in order to see it correctly and they do line up.
I also believe that if it had been over polished, the outline of the letter would have ware marks or dull worn off spots where the part that was over polished was, which mine doesn't. I guess this is why there's so much doubt and scepticism. Thanks for the feedback. ErrorsRCool.
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So how would you polish off the horizontal and the vertical lines on the G and not effect the rest of the letter? Not posable. That would take a lot of skill and steady hands to not polish off any of the rest of the G. And why would it be done? There is nothing to clash with on the obverse. The top of the G looks like it might have taken a hit that shorted it up a little.
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The very best way for the op to know what he has is send it in for attribution. I wish him the very best on this but I'm afraid it is nothing more than a 1989 with the RDV-006 which is normal for that year.
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