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1809 Large Cent I Believe

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 Posted 05/12/2024  11:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jimbo48 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was at a coin club show over the weekend and purchased what I believe is an 1809 Large Cent. I got a great price (25% normal price) on this hard to find coin and thought it was a good gamble. The 9 is damaged, but looks like a 9. The coin is either 1808 or 1809 since the Classic Head was introduced in 1808. The reverse of a authentic 1809 coin has a die crack/marker just below the last S in States and connects two leaves below the S. Unfortunately, corrosion has caused the die marker to become hard to detect. I think I see it, but would appreciate opinions. I included a Mint State reverse that displays the die marker.
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 Posted 05/13/2024  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a 9 to me also.........
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I believe it is an 1808, Sheldon 277. The reverse of the O.P coin is not that used in the only die variety for 1809.
S-277 obverse also often has a missing 1st. star, like the O.P coin

I would post a picture of a S-277 but I don't have one small enough (300 KB) to post in this forum. Please google 1808, S-277.
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 Posted 05/13/2024  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a 9.
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Germanicvs is correct, has to be 1808. I looked it up like he said. That big die crack on the reverse is a dead giveaway.
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I will assume you are correct... Given the odd look around the number, I have to assume someone tooled the 8 into a 9.
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I looked it up and the reverse is a match for the 1808. I am glad I didn't spend a lot on this purchase. Another lesson learned about dates that look damaged, they could be tooled. Thanks for all your responses, it really helps to have knowledgeable collectors to get feedback on posted questions.
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Germanicvs is the man. So very knowledgeable and I continually learn from him. His collection is beyond incredible.
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Thank you, @52Raymo for your kind words.

I may know a thing or two about early American coppers. However, the real expert was the gentleman who posted here a few times up to about 4-6 months ago. I forget know what his name was, but I was continually learning from him.
(pity he seem not to post anymore).
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I am glad I didn't spend a lot on this purchase.
An inexpensive lesson then. The coin is great for educational purposes. I am sure it will help someone else here in the future.

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Nice work, GERMANICVS.
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Yep, the reverse crack is the diagnostic for the 277 aka the 12 star obverse. Your coin represents the 12 star LDS variety well because star 1 appears to be entirely missing.
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Here's the 1808 Sheldon-277.

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