More TPG Bs. Counterfeit/Fake NGC Variant?

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Biedercoins Pillar of the Community United States 1601 Posts	Posted 06/01/2024 8:14 pm Anybody know if NGC encapsulates "things" without a score, genuine confirmation nor any indication that it's a SAMPLE, or the like? For example, there's this item on the bay, item no. 296464204403. Sorry, have to cut/paste this one. I tried to run the number but without a score didn't get far. It isn't the only one on offer from this dealer who actually has a fairly positive feedback tally. For all the work they put into it, it's not fooling anybody, so why try to attribute it to a collection? And a piece of the original bag would have been nice. Thoughts? Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34393 Posts	Posted 06/01/2024 8:31 pm Uploading a pic so that folks can learn from this thread once the auction comes down: "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
nfine Pillar of the Community United States 3467 Posts	Posted 06/01/2024 8:40 pm A quick search for "ngc 57th street collection" on ebay returned graded, authenticated, and non-graded/authenticated coins. Multiple sellers, multiple coin series. Report this Post to the Staff
Biedercoins Pillar of the Community United States 1601 Posts	Posted 06/01/2024 8:41 pm Thanks Spence. My half brain is only half working today. Edit: There used to be a Stack's Galleries on W. 57th. Could that have been half of what's now Stack's-Bowers? The signage used is similar. Maybe that's where the seed for this little scam- if that's what this is - originated. Edited by Biedercoins 06/01/2024 10:03 pm Report this Post to the Staff
BH1964 Bedrock of the Community United States 10982 Posts	Posted 06/01/2024 10:09 pm I've seen genuine coins in similar holders. Not saying this one is genuine, only that genuine coins have been holders like this one. Here's NGCs verification: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/...1-013/Other/ It's completely legit. There are dozens of these on ebay. ANA #R3154474 Edited by BH1964 06/01/2024 10:20 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Biedercoins Pillar of the Community United States 1601 Posts	Posted 06/01/2024 11:25 pm Huh. I wonder why I got zip when I tried to run it. Seems to me PCGS has a box to tick for "holder only" if the coin has problems. No score is better than Damaged or another Details score? Report this Post to the Staff
NumismaticsFTW Pillar of the Community United States 2280 Posts	Posted 06/01/2024 11:32 pm Of course they slab coins without numerical grades. You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Report this Post to the Staff
BH1964 Bedrock of the Community United States 10982 Posts	Posted 06/02/2024 01:04 am Quote: Huh. I wonder why I got zip when I tried to run it. Seems to me PCGS has a box to tick for "holder only" if the coin has problems. No score is better than Damaged or another Details score? In NGCs cert lookup use the "Grade" dropdown menu and select "Other". Since there no number or details listed then "Other" it is. And yes, since no problems are noted then NGC "graded" it genuine and problem-free. This is a low grade example that appears to be G04 or better. ANA #R3154474 Edited by BH1964 06/02/2024 01:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
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