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I saw an 1865 3 cent coin in an auction that looks like a DDO except the only listing on VV has the doubling in the opposite direction. So I'm wondering if it actually is a DDO. The picture from the auction isn't too helpful as its blurry. There is another one listed on E-Bay that is the same though. |
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We can't help without pictures or a link to the auction(s).
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Seeker_101, Can you post a link on VV please? John1  |
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Posting a pic of the purported doubling from the ebay auction here so that folks can learn even after the auction is pulled down:  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Edited by Seeker_101
06/08/2024 08:44 am
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Many 3CN's show extensive Strike Doubling (Longacre doubling) on the legends and I think this is likely one of those coins. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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This looks like Longacre Doubling, not a Doubled Die. The designer, James B. Longacre, is known for this. Many of the coins he designed show a shallow 'trench' around the letters. This is actually cut into the die and can disappear as the die is polished. Here another 1865 that shows what it looks like on a mint state coin. If you look at the D in UNITED, you can see that this coin and my example show the same missing section at the top and may have been struck with the same obverse die. The areas that look like scratches in the field just around the portrait and the III on the reverse are the result of a strong die clash. I've read that it's harder to find nickel Three Cent coins that aren't struck with clashed dies.   ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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06/08/2024 09:41 am
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Thank you. I asked because there are 2 of these 1865 3 cent coins in this particular auction, one UNC and the other XF. The XF is is the picture I posted (UNC is even blurrier) and bids are way above the other coin.
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Agree, Longacre "shelf doublinig".
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Yep, Longacre Doubling.
Errers and Varietys.
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Quote:This looks like Longacre Doubling, not a Doubled Die. The designer, James B. Longacre, is known for this. Many of the coins he designed show a shallow 'trench' around the letters. This is actually cut into the die and can disappear as the die is polished. huh. I did not know that. interesting. I have an 1865, as well, in my type album, and it exhibits the same clashing that I see on the coin Yokozuna posted, and I think I recall seeing the 'longacre doubling', as well. Quote:
Here another 1865 that shows what it looks like on a mint state coin. If you look at the D in UNITED, you can see that this coin and my example show the same missing section at the top and may have been struck with the same obverse die. i'll have to dig my pictures out. Quote:
The areas that look like scratches in the field just around the portrait and the III on the reverse are the result of a strong die clash. mine has that. I think mine actually shows multiple clash marks on the obverse, the clashed clusters of wreath leaves, specifically. Quote:I've read that it's harder to find nickel Three Cent coins that aren't struck with clashed dies.  ... |
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Well...I ended up not winning the coin or any other coins in that auction. I just couldn't justify price vs. value. The last lot I was outbid on was a lot of 3 BU RPM Buffalo nickels (one was 1938 D/S). |
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