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1979 Canadian Penny. Double Date. 979 Doubled

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 Posted 06/17/2024  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just letting you know that these coins have value..all good.. trying to help others like myself find value in everyday coins...I certainly would not say they had a premium if they didn't.. they have a premium...all I can say is look it up..it's simple..good times ..only reason I would engage conversations is because I didn't think they were til recently..ngc..canadian coins..look it up
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 Posted 06/17/2024  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or maybe ngc is wrong also?
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 Posted 06/17/2024  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here you ho..I will do your homework for you..
1979-Canadian-Penny.-Double-Date.-979-Doubled
1979-Canadian-Penny.-Double-Date.-979-Doubled
You should send them an email at coinscanada and let them know they are wrong...
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 Posted 06/17/2024  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Then you poke fun like I'm a newbie YouTube collector..meanwhile you are giving your advice on a forum online..you are just looking to argue. If you have any positive or informative info then just pass me by..
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 Posted 06/17/2024  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These coins do exist.
Some collectors seek them.
However they are not varieties or errors.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/17/2024  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Starseed,

The 1979 small cent you posted is indeed the aftermath of Die Deterioration Doubling, I specialize in real doubled die varieties on Canadian coinage of all denominations and I can assure you with confidence that Die Deterioration Doubling is not a true variety of any kind.

Yes, some examples do in fact (for whatever uneducated reason from long ago) carry a premium, and yes there are a select few grading companies that will attribute them correctly while stating "Double Date" or "Double 979" simply meaning Deteriorated/Machined Date, or Deteriorated/Machined 979.

When grading companies say "Double" instead of "Doubled Die" they are 100% referring to Machine Doubling OR Die Deterioration Doubling and it does confuse a lot of collectors.

Die Deterioration is not an error or a variety, the dies that are used to strike Canadian coinage can deteriorate quickly, it is completely inevitable and is not under any circumstances, an error or variety no matter how many new collectors wish, or sometimes demand that they are.

Machine Doubling will happen for a number of reasons that are well within the RCM's tolerance during the striking process, which again, is not an error or variety.

As for using Coins and Canada for references, anyone can post examples on the Coins and Canada forum and have it listed as whatever they wish to call it, not everything listed on Coins and Canada is genuine and they are aware of that and are currently trying to add correct descriptions. So yes, you will find Die Deterioration listings and Machine Doubling Listings, however, it does not make them worth a premium.
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 Posted 06/17/2024  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you JohnWayne007.
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 Posted 06/17/2024  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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