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1979 Canadian Penny. Double Date. 979 Doubled

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 Posted 06/17/2024  06:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
nice doubling on 979..any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thx
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 Posted 06/17/2024  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die Deterioration doubling. No premium, just a tired die.
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 Posted 06/17/2024  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mechanical Doubling is a variety of canadian pennies
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 Posted 06/17/2024  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mechanical or Machine Doubling is caused by the die getting loose from their holders. If it was MD, you would have more "shadow doubling" than just 3 digits. Read up on this attachment the links at the bottom and left side:
https://doubleddie.com/144801.html
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 Posted 06/17/2024  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Starseed, I agree with okiecoiner ,also Machine Doubling is not a variety, it has nothing to do with the making of the die. The OP's coin is neither an error or variety, it is normal progressive deterioration of a well used die, as okie mentioned above
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 Posted 06/17/2024  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You need to do your homework bud ..
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 Posted 06/17/2024  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1978 and 1979 canadian pennies..machine doubled varieties..also couple of different nickles also have the premium
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 Posted 06/17/2024  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are overlooking some good varieties if you don't know about those..they are very common..not too pricey but they do have a premium
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 Posted 06/17/2024  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like great advice from a graduate of the ebay school of numismatics.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/17/2024  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Been an collector of pennies since the 80s..I use real value resources too..just look it up
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 Posted 06/17/2024  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starseed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ngc canadian penny values..1979 machine doubled date...look it up
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I find it hard to believe that you don't know these varieties exist..pretty head strong about the subject and you clearly haven't researched it at all
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DBM,I believe you are correct
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I will again link you to REAL experts on the doubling subject, including Wexler. Please read and then go to the links at the bottom of the page and left of the page.
https://doubleddie.com/144801.html
If you are going by ebay "sell" prices, you are following buyers who did not know what they were buying and hadn't researched. You wanted opinions on your coin and 4 different people have told you that Machine Doubling and Die Deterioration Doubling ARE NOT varieties and add little to no value. You seem to be following ebay "newbies" rather than established, knowleable collectors
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This topic is getting unnecessarily adversarial.

Starseed, the parties debating with you are looking at the definition of "variety" and as a result disagreeing with you.

According to NGC, a variety is:

"In United States numismatics, a variety may be defined as a die or die pairing that offers some distinctive feature not a normal part of the design."

So this is not a "variety" because it is not caused by a difference in the dies versus other cents. It is, however, a well-collected phenomenon with 1979 pennies. There are double "1979", double "979", double "79" and double "9" coins out there. The double "1979" is particularly hard to find.

1979 double date coins will carry a premium in high MS grades but the market for examples grading under MS65 is quite limited with the exception of the double "1979".

I used to have a huge set of "doubled" and "hanging" small cents (die clashes) but I have lost interest in them and sold them all.
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 Posted 06/17/2024  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The collecting community has not treated such coins consistently. Some catch on in popularity and sell at premiums. Others do not.

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