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Valued Member
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nice doubling on 979..any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thx 
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Mechanical or Machine Doubling is caused by the die getting loose from their holders. If it was MD, you would have more "shadow doubling" than just 3 digits. Read up on this attachment the links at the bottom and left side: https://doubleddie.com/144801.html
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Starseed, I agree with okiecoiner ,also Machine Doubling is not a variety, it has nothing to do with the making of the die. The OP's coin is neither an error or variety, it is normal progressive deterioration of a well used die, as okie mentioned above
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Valued Member
 Canada
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You need to do your homework bud ..
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Valued Member
 Canada
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1978 and 1979 canadian pennies..machine doubled varieties..also couple of different nickles also have the premium
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Valued Member
 Canada
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You are overlooking some good varieties if you don't know about those..they are very common..not too pricey but they do have a premium
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Sounds like great advice from a graduate of the ebay school of numismatics.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Been an collector of pennies since the 80s..I use real value resources too..just look it up
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Valued Member
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Ngc canadian penny values..1979 machine doubled date...look it up
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Valued Member
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I find it hard to believe that you don't know these varieties exist..pretty head strong about the subject and you clearly haven't researched it at all
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Pillar of the Community
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DBM,I believe you are correct
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I will again link you to REAL experts on the doubling subject, including Wexler. Please read and then go to the links at the bottom of the page and left of the page. https://doubleddie.com/144801.htmlIf you are going by ebay "sell" prices, you are following buyers who did not know what they were buying and hadn't researched. You wanted opinions on your coin and 4 different people have told you that Machine Doubling and Die Deterioration Doubling ARE NOT varieties and add little to no value. You seem to be following ebay "newbies" rather than established, knowleable collectors
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This topic is getting unnecessarily adversarial.
Starseed, the parties debating with you are looking at the definition of "variety" and as a result disagreeing with you.
According to NGC, a variety is:
"In United States numismatics, a variety may be defined as a die or die pairing that offers some distinctive feature not a normal part of the design."
So this is not a "variety" because it is not caused by a difference in the dies versus other cents. It is, however, a well-collected phenomenon with 1979 pennies. There are double "1979", double "979", double "79" and double "9" coins out there. The double "1979" is particularly hard to find.
1979 double date coins will carry a premium in high MS grades but the market for examples grading under MS65 is quite limited with the exception of the double "1979".
I used to have a huge set of "doubled" and "hanging" small cents (die clashes) but I have lost interest in them and sold them all.
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Edited by bosox 06/17/2024 2:03 pm
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