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1973 D LMC Two Coin Die Chip Progression Set

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1973 D Die chip Under B and pre die chip under B. Two coin progression set. Can this be called a bie?
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Not quite sure if it would be called a BIE.
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Hi, yes because the B and E do not connect to each other. I'll see what others may say. Thanks, Frank.
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There are 2 schools of thought on this BIE mess
1. if there is a chip anywhere near the I or B - they call it a BIE
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2. If the I and B are connected - then it is a True BIE. <---- I'm in this school
So, for me, No this is not a BIE just a die chip under the B.
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I do not know much about BIE's but I am familiar with die progression and these would not appear to be from the same die. The earlier stage you are showing is further east on the B than the later stage, that cannot be. Give us a date/mm shot of each, if you would.
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makecents; you are correct, look at the chip distance between the B and E.
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Hi, sorry for taking soo long to post the pix of mm and date. I had to cut the yard 1st pic is of the die chip coin and 2nd pic is of the per die chip coin. A lot of die scratches
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Extremely similar mm locations but as I stated, they cannot be from the same die.
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Hi, thought this would help . A pic, of rev die error ( same order as above ) coin with the die chip is the 1st pic. Coin with pre die chip is the 2nd pic. Same for the pix. of behind Lincoln's head. The placement may be a little off and die scratches may not exactly line up but the die clash on rev should show it is from the same die on rev and more than likely same obv. They came from the same BU roll. I found 4 coins ( two sets ) in all. Thanks, Frank B.
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Once again, different dies. As for the Recurring die subsidence error, I think that was on a working hub, as many as there are out there.

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Hi, the question is can it be called a BIE. I got the answer. James Wiles has the set and is happy with it. I will trust his option on this matter. Thanks. Frank B.
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I don't think you are getting it, Frank. They cannot be from the same die. One last side by side and I'll leave your BIE alone. You cannot have the chip further east on the earlier die stage than the later die stage and that is what is going on here. Just trying to help you. And what you have on the reverse is not a clash.


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Hi, I see what you are saying. I thank you Did not know about the REV on the 1973 D. I learned something new today. Thanks, Frank B.
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Hi, is the error on rev worth anything?
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I'm not sure but being on a BU coin would probably help. There are a lot of these out there, as stated in the link I gave you from Error Ref, there are several dies.
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